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just finished crunching 3645593 task.
I requested 70,40 credits, system granted .... 0 (zero). Why ?
Computer 25458, task id 3645593.
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The quick look at ResultID 3645593 shows that potentially more computer was having issues resulting in reporting pulses that were not found in the results returned by your two wingman.
I am not sure what to say what will happen from here.
Hi,
just finished crunching 3645593 task.
I requested 70,40 credits, system granted .... 0 (zero). Why ?
Computer 25458, task id 3645593.
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Hi all: Just finished task id: 3810119 work unit id: 1108615 This result took over 5.4 hours to complete:
3810120 1648 28 Apr 2008 18:03:10 UTC 22 May 2008 17:52:19 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- ---
3810118 17665 28 Apr 2008 17:57:25 UTC 29 Apr 2008 1:44:58 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server 0.00 --- ---
3810119 28613 28 Apr 2008 18:27:07 UTC 29 Apr 2008 6:27:13 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server 19,474.86 --- ---
Why didn't I get credit for this task?
-- Mark Reiss
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Hi all: Just finished task id: 3810119 work unit id: 1108615 This result took over 5.4 hours to complete:
Why didn't I get credit for this task?
-- Mark Reiss
Just looked at the server status page. The waiting to send has dropped by about 100,000 work unts. So my guess they did a forced cancel off all the SETI Multi-beam work units, so the astorpulse would start to run.
Just looked at the server status page. The waiting to send has dropped by about 100,000 work unts. So my guess they did a forced cancel off all the SETI Multi-beam work units, so the astorpulse would start to run.
Thereby giving the proverbial finger to all the Mac users out there …
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When I was speaking with Eric on the phone the number of WU's was about 117000 and had been for days...
As I have posted elsewhere, he looked and I heard him say it should be running... then a couple of minutes of his typing... after the conversation started again I did a refresh on the server status page. Over 4000 WU's had been disappeared from the 117000. While I can not prove it the 117000 was an inflated number in a stuck process. Discounting NEZ over 100000 Wu's would have to been sucked up in less than three days.
Just looked at the server status page. The waiting to send has dropped by about 100,000 work unts. So my guess they did a forced cancel off all the SETI Multi-beam work units, so the astorpulse would start to run.
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I will bang on the desk Monday, again for the Mac Users... Dotsch has some test apps for AP... In the AP forum.
Just looked at the server status page. The waiting to send has dropped by about 100,000 work unts. So my guess they did a forced cancel off all the SETI Multi-beam work units, so the astorpulse would start to run.
Thereby giving the proverbial finger to all the Mac users out there …
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I will bang on the desk Monday, again for the Mac Users... Dotsch has some test apps for AP... In the AP forum.
Thanks—and sorry if I seem intemperate but the lack of warning had me irritated; my G4 at work, for example, will have needlessly wasted about a day of CPU time. How much trouble could it have been to issue an advisory to set the project to NNT, and stop issuing new work, a week or two in advance of cancelling the outstanding WUs outright?
As for Dotsch’s Astropulse app, this G5 is running the PPC build as I write: it’s about 60% through its first task, which I estimate will run a little over 150 hours.
Thanks to the developers for granting credit on the cancelled WUs; that has greatly improved my poor old G4’s morale. ;)
I’ve just started crunching for this project again after a few months absence, but I don’t seem to be getting any credits. This message is typical of what happens:
3940199 1147810 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 24 Jun 2008 21:03:52 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server
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The initial replication of workunits is "three" required for validation is "two". If you have one of the three workunits and the other two complete it server will tell you to "Not start the work" (cancelled). If you have started the work it will complete and you will get credit...
I’ve just started crunching for this project again after a few months absence, but I don’t seem to be getting any credits. This message is typical of what happens:
3940199 1147810 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 24 Jun 2008 21:03:52 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server
What does this mean?
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Thanks for the info! I haven’t received any credits for any workunits since rejoining though. The five returned so far are all redundant results, which seems unlucky:
3940199 1147810 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 24 Jun 2008 21:03:52 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server 0.00 --- ---
3940183 1147805 21 Jun 2008 16:27:52 UTC 24 Jun 2008 11:45:24 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server 0.00 --- ---
3940114 1147782 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 23 Jun 2008 21:26:04 UTC Over Redundant result Done 0.00 --- ---
3940106 1147779 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 23 Jun 2008 21:26:04 UTC Over Redundant result Done 0.00
3940228 1147820 21 Jun 2008 16:27:29 UTC 23 Jun 2008 21:26:04 UTC Over Redundant result Done 0.00
So two were "Cancelled by server", but three say "Done" and still no credit. Is this normal?
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The initial replication of workunits is "three" required for validation is "two". If you have one of the three workunits and the other two complete it server will tell you to "Not start the work" (cancelled). If you have started the work it will complete and you will get credit...
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I will tickle Eric to Kick the Validator
Thanks for the info! I haven’t received any credits for any workunits since rejoining though. The five returned so far are all redundant results, which seems unlucky:
3940199 1147810 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 24 Jun 2008 21:03:52 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server 0.00 --- ---
3940183 1147805 21 Jun 2008 16:27:52 UTC 24 Jun 2008 11:45:24 UTC Over Redundant result Cancelled by server 0.00 --- ---
3940114 1147782 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 23 Jun 2008 21:26:04 UTC Over Redundant result Done 0.00 --- ---
3940106 1147779 21 Jun 2008 16:26:26 UTC 23 Jun 2008 21:26:04 UTC Over Redundant result Done 0.00
3940228 1147820 21 Jun 2008 16:27:29 UTC 23 Jun 2008 21:26:04 UTC Over Redundant result Done 0.00
So two were "Cancelled by server", but three say "Done" and still no credit. Is this normal?
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The initial replication of workunits is "three" required for validation is "two". If you have one of the three workunits and the other two complete it server will tell you to "Not start the work" (cancelled). If you have started the work it will complete and you will get credit...
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Thanks for the info! I haven’t received any credits for any workunits since rejoining though. The five returned so far are all redundant results
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two were "Cancelled by server", but three say "Done" and still no credit. Is this normal?
That difference in the status shown has been noted before, it just seems to be a cosmetic flaw.
I note you have received credit for one since posting:
3940223 1147818 21 Jun 2008 16:01:46 UTC 26 Jun 2008 17:08:05 UTC Over Success Done 15,443.35 63.99 63.98
With over 5 days between the "Sent" and "Reported" times, I think Pappa's original analysis is right on target. The queue of over 70 WUs you have will probably make many more redundant before the host starts them, particularly since I judge you have a fairly small share of its time allocated to this project. That's not a criticism, you're contributing some CPU time and the project asks no more.
If we've missed something and the host had actually spent some time working on any of those which the server aborted, that would indicate a server misconfiguration which should be corrected ASAP.
Thanks for all the helpful messages! You’re right; only 9.09% of my CPU time is dedicated to this project. Interestingly, that doesn't seem to have the same effect on all the other projects I crunch for. Presumably this one has some very dedicated hosts which gobble up workunits as fast as they come out! Perhaps I should consider either increasing the allocation of time to this project or just concentrating on other projects. I shall ponder...
Thanks again.
With over 5 days between the "Sent" and "Reported" times, I think Pappa's original analysis is right on target. The queue of over 70 WUs you have will probably make many more redundant before the host starts them, particularly since I judge you have a fairly small share of its time allocated to this project. That's not a criticism, you're contributing some CPU time and the project asks no more.
If we've missed something and the host had actually spent some time working on any of those which the server aborted, that would indicate a server misconfiguration which should be corrected ASAP.Joe
Thanks for all the helpful messages! You’re right; only 9.09% of my CPU time is dedicated to this project. Interestingly, that doesn't seem to have the same effect on all the other projects I crunch for. Presumably this one has some very dedicated hosts which gobble up workunits as fast as they come out! Perhaps I should consider either increasing the allocation of time to this project or just concentrating on other projects. I shall ponder...
Thanks again.
Graham, Your machine seems to be communicating with SETI Beta servers at least once a day, and you are using BOINC 5.10.45
I would suggest that you set your connect interval in BOINC to 1 day or less. 0.25 would probably be as low as I would go, as a very low setting may cause other problems. Then set the "Maintain enough work for an additional:" setting to something like 2 or 3 days max.
I see that you are (or have been) attached to about 20 projects. I also run > 10 projects on 2 single core PC's, although several of them are currently set to "No New Tasks", and others e.g. LHC, RALPH, SIMAP, rarely or infrequently have work.
Keith.
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I would suggest that you set your connect interval in BOINC to 1 day or less. 0.25 would probably be as low as I would go, as a very low setting may cause other problems. Then set the "Maintain enough work for an additional:" setting to something like 2 or 3 days max.
Thanks; I’ve gone for 0.25 and 3 respectively. Will watch and see!
I see that you are (or have been) attached to about 20 projects. I also run > 10 projects on 2 single core PC's, although several of them are currently set to "No New Tasks", and others e.g. LHC, RALPH, SIMAP, rarely or infrequently have work.
Keith.
Yes, I used to do work for about twenty projects. Nowadays I only have Macs (a dual core Intel that does most of the work, and a couple of G3s that occasionally manage to finish a workunit or two), so I just crunch for whichever projects support Macs.
Thanks for your help.
Graham
Hi,
I got no credit for WU
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/workunit.php?wuid=1223969
I know I was last to report this WU, but its not a rat race ;)
Had a power outage this morning all well over here, After reading this post I reset Seti main on both hosts only received half of the WU back so it saved crunching to nothing. Still no AP4.35 though. I have not posted a list of completed WU as there has been so much discusion on AP4.35 for main.
Michael
application AstroPulse
created 20 Jun 2008 7:08:13 UTC
name ap_23ap08aa_B1_P0_00122_20080620_17994.wu
minimum quorum 2
initial replication 2
max # of error/total/success tasks 5, 10, 10
Task ID
click for details Computer Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Server state
explain Outcome
explain Client state
explain CPU time (sec) claimed credit granted credit
4261290 --- --- --- Unsent --- New --- --- ---
3968300 20818 22 Jun 2008 19:20:50 UTC 1 Aug 2008 16:32:00 UTC Over Client error Compute error 152,240.50 257.88 ---
3968301 27256 22 Jun 2008 19:26:13 UTC 10 Jul 2008 8:46:39 UTC Over Success Done 424,998.50 1,457.37 pending
Is this workunit likely to sent out out again sometime, so it can be validated, or is it more likely to gather dust?
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