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Message 52411 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 16:40:11 UTC

v7.04 for GPUs (ATI, Intel and NV) under Windows is up and running. Let the testing begin.
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Message 52412 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 16:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 52403.  
Last modified: 15 Sep 2014, 17:36:22 UTC

Hi Raistmer,

boinc_get_opencl_ids() reported the reason for the failure in this line:
> Invalid OpenCL GPU index: 1
This error will occur if the value of <gpu_opencl_dev_index> provided by the init_data.xml file

It would be very helpful to see the init_data.xml file to understand what went wrong.

Does user TBar have the following option set in his cc_config.xml file?
> <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

If not, then BOINC will normally use only the most powerful ATI GPU (the 6770 Juniper), so the 4670 (RV730) will be ignored, so the highest valid OpenCL GPU index will be 0. However, I'm not sure whether this still applies in the case of anonymous platform. Also, boinc_get_opencl_ids() determines the number of OpenCL devices for each platform independently.

What does the BOINC client report about its detection of GPUs near the beginning of BOINC's Event Log (in stdoutdae.txt a few lines after "Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 ....")? Does it say that the 4670 is "not used"?

The host system has one NVIDIA GPU and 2 ATI GPUs. What does this message mean:
> WARNING: BOINC supplied wrong platform!

Is there any possibility that the anonymous platform specification was trying to run the application on a second NVIDIA GPU rather than the second ATI GPU?

Cheers,
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13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for windows_intelx86
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8800 GT (driver version 266.58, CUDA version 3.2, compute capability 1.1, 512MB, 470MB available, 544 GFLOPS peak)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] CAL: ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5700/6750/6770 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.1646, 1024MB, 1003MB available, 2880 GFLOPS peak)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] CAL: ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 4600 series (R730) (CAL version 1.4.1646, 1024MB, 1019MB available, 960 GFLOPS peak)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 8800 GT (driver version 266.58, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 512MB, 470MB available, 544 GFLOPS peak)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5700/6750/6770 series (Juniper) (driver version CAL 1.4.1646, device version OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4), 1024MB, 1003MB available, 2880 GFLOPS peak)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD 4600 series (R730) (driver version CAL 1.4.1646, device version OpenCL 1.0 AMD-APP (831.4), 1024MB, 1019MB available, 960 GFLOPS peak)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9400  @ 2.66GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 2.0, device version OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP (831.4))
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [SETI@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [SETI@home Beta Test] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9400  @ 2.66GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10]
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] Local time is UTC -4 hours
13-Sep-2014 21:57:12 [---] Config: use all coprocessors...

The 4670 did complete a number of tasks; http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=72229
Right now I'm back to running Ubuntu on that machine. When/if AP 7.04 gets released on the server, I was thinking about running the 4670 in Vista. But, I don't think the Platform warning will appear in Vista, due to not being able to run dual platforms in Vista.

BTW, here's one of those nVidia 340s; Completed, validation inconclusive
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be very helpful to see the init_data.xml file to understand what went wrong.

Here you go;
    <coprocs>
<coproc_ati>
   <count>0</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 5700/6750/6770 series (Juniper)</name>
   <available_ram>1051721728.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cal>1</have_cal>
   <have_opencl>0</have_opencl>
   <peak_flops>2880000000000.000000</peak_flops>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
   <target>9</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>900</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>1150</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>10</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>16384</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>16384</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>16384</maxResource2DHeight>
    <atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>
<coproc_ati>
   <count>0</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 4600 series (R730)</name>
   <available_ram>1068498944.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cal>1</have_cal>
   <have_opencl>0</have_opencl>
   <peak_flops>960000000000.000000</peak_flops>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
   <target>7</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>750</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>800</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>32</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>8</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>8192</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>8192</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>8192</maxResource2DHeight>
    <atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>
<coproc_cuda>
   <count>1</count>
   <name>GeForce 8800 GT</name>

Does it mean anything that both ATIs are <count>0</count> ?
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Message 52413 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 16:53:09 UTC - in response to Message 52410.  

7.04 release for Windows GPUs.

New plan class (opencl_nvidia_cc1 and cuda_opencl_cc1) to divide out pre-Fermi hardware that is no longer supported by NVIDIA drivers >= 340.XX.
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Message 52414 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 17:09:01 UTC - in response to Message 52409.  
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I'll ask BOINC devs why it could fail with -33 then. boinc_get_opencl_ids is BOINC API function.

As often if not as usually request was ignored.One more reason to have own enumeration. Better warning and work then no warning and no work.

You got a full email reply from Charlie Fenton, and a request for further details, about an hour and a half before you wrote that.


Good to see some reaction then. Las time I checked list there was nothing though other topics discussed.


Bad news... Seems like mail providers start war. Charlie's letter was in spam so w/o Richard's post I hardly know about it in any near time...
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Message 52415 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 17:31:54 UTC

Got first tasks under new opencl_nvidia_cc1 plan class.
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Message 52416 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 17:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 52414.  

Bad news... Seems like mail providers start war.

That's a good assessment. Anything from aol and most everything from hotmail goes into gmail spam, no matter how many times I click "not spam".
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Message 52419 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 18:51:32 UTC

As expected, BOINC's estimate for my first intel_gpu v7.04 task is somewhat high - 14h10m, against the 3h15m it's learned by experience from v7.03.
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Message 52420 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 18:58:08 UTC - in response to Message 52419.  

As expected, BOINC's estimate for my first intel_gpu v7.04 task is somewhat high - 14h10m, against the 3h15m it's learned by experience from v7.03.


Yes, the same for nv tasks Idownloaded. But some prev update, maybe for MB or gpu AP6 gone with estimations transfer... what changed to prevent such transfer now?...
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Message 52422 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 19:03:06 UTC - in response to Message 52420.  

I've given up trying to understand the "logic" of the scheduler.
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Message 52423 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 19:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 52402.  
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I have invalid on my C2D E8500 while running the Stock 7.00 intelx86 app, two v7.03 opencl_intel_gpu_mac hosts ganged up on me:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/workunit.php?wuid=6593035

And another one on my i7-2600K while running the Stock 7.00 intelx86 app, between a v7.03 opencl_ati_mac running host, and Raistmer's Athlon 64 3200+ host running the v7.00 sse2 app:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/workunit.php?wuid=6481190

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So, what offline rerun shows?

There wasn't enough interrupted time (on the two hosts that I had with me) available last week for a bench to be carried out,
Only the first Wu can be benched, the 2nd Wu was two months ago, the Wu has been purged in the meantime, and mac was running v7.00 opencl_ati_mac, not 7.03

I'll get a bench running on the first Wu shortly.

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Message 52426 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 21:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 52422.  

I've given up trying to understand the "logic" of the scheduler.

That made me think of a Dilbert comic.
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Message 52427 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 22:06:01 UTC - in response to Message 52412.  
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It would be very helpful to see the init_data.xml file to understand what went wrong.

Here you go, coproc_info.xml
    <coprocs>
<coproc_ati>
   <count>0</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 5700/6750/6770 series (Juniper)</name>
   <available_ram>1051721728.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cal>1</have_cal>
   <have_opencl>0</have_opencl>
   <peak_flops>2880000000000.000000</peak_flops>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
   <target>9</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>900</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>1150</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>10</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>16384</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>16384</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>16384</maxResource2DHeight>
    <atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>
<coproc_ati>
   <count>0</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 4600 series (R730)</name>
   <available_ram>1068498944.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cal>1</have_cal>
   <have_opencl>0</have_opencl>
   <peak_flops>960000000000.000000</peak_flops>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
   <target>7</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>750</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>800</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>32</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>8</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>8192</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>8192</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>8192</maxResource2DHeight>
    <atirt_detected/>
</coproc_ati>
<coproc_cuda>
   <count>1</count>
   <name>GeForce 8800 GT</name>
   <available_ram>492612096.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cuda>1</have_cuda>
   <have_opencl>0</have_opencl>

Does it mean anything that both ATIs are <count>0</count> ?

I looked at all my Windows Hosts, all of them have <coproc_ati> & <count>0</count> in the coproc_info.xml. Likewise, they All have the Correct Count in the init_data.xml. The CUDA Counts are the same in both the coproc_info.xml & init_data.xml ????

I left 1 task in progress in XP on Main, here is the only init_data.xml currently available from the XP host;

<coproc_cuda>
   <count>1</count>
   <name>GeForce 8800 GT</name>
   <available_ram>492612096.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cuda>1</have_cuda>
   <have_opencl>1</have_opencl>
   <peak_flops>544320000000.000000</peak_flops>
   <cudaVersion>3020</cudaVersion>
   <drvVersion>26658</drvVersion>
   <totalGlobalMem>536674304.000000</totalGlobalMem>
   <sharedMemPerBlock>16384.000000</sharedMemPerBlock>
   <regsPerBlock>8192</regsPerBlock>
   <warpSize>32</warpSize>
   <memPitch>2147483647.000000</memPitch>
   <maxThreadsPerBlock>512</maxThreadsPerBlock>
   <maxThreadsDim>512 512 64</maxThreadsDim>
   <maxGridSize>65535 65535 1</maxGridSize>
   <clockRate>1620000</clockRate>
   <totalConstMem>65536.000000</totalConstMem>
   <major>1</major>
   <minor>1</minor>
   <textureAlignment>256.000000</textureAlignment>
   <deviceOverlap>1</deviceOverlap>
   <multiProcessorCount>14</multiProcessorCount>
</coproc_cuda>
<coproc_ati>
   <count>2</count>
   <name>ATI Radeon HD 5700/6750/6770 series (Juniper)</name>
   <available_ram>1051721728.000000</available_ram>
   <have_cal>1</have_cal>
   <have_opencl>1</have_opencl>
   <peak_flops>2880000000000.000000</peak_flops>
   <CALVersion>1.4.1646</CALVersion>
   <target>9</target>
   <localRAM>1024</localRAM>
   <uncachedRemoteRAM>128</uncachedRemoteRAM>
   <cachedRemoteRAM>64</cachedRemoteRAM>
   <engineClock>900</engineClock>
   <memoryClock>1150</memoryClock>
   <wavefrontSize>64</wavefrontSize>
   <numberOfSIMD>10</numberOfSIMD>
   <doublePrecision>0</doublePrecision>
   <pitch_alignment>256</pitch_alignment>
   <surface_alignment>256</surface_alignment>
   <maxResource1DWidth>16384</maxResource1DWidth>
   <maxResource2DWidth>16384</maxResource2DWidth>
   <maxResource2DHeight>16384</maxResource2DHeight>
    <atirt_detected/>

So, why are there different ATI Counts in the coproc_info.xml & init_data.xml ????
Also, why does the coproc_info.xml say my Cards don't have OpenCL ????
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Message 52428 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 22:47:32 UTC

Off Topic, has Seti Beta gained a Hotel in London?

All my Seti Beta pages keep getting redirected to:

http://www.the-berkeley.co.uk/luxury-hotel-offers/?utm_source=CJ&utm_medium=AFFILIATE

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Message 52429 - Posted: 15 Sep 2014, 23:02:18 UTC - in response to Message 52428.  

Not that I'm aware of. I suspect someone is messing with your DNS resolution.

How were you able to post?
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Message 52431 - Posted: 16 Sep 2014, 0:30:32 UTC - in response to Message 52429.  
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Not that I'm aware of. I suspect someone is messing with your DNS resolution.

How were you able to post?

This was on my Ubuntu 12.04 host, twice it reverted back to Seti Beta, not seen it on my Windows hosts, yet, But I didn't try them at the same time.

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Message 52432 - Posted: 16 Sep 2014, 0:38:56 UTC - in response to Message 52422.  
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I've given up trying to understand the "logic" of the scheduler.


Much becomes clear with the background research, and I'm gradually finding simpler ways to explain it.

simplest so far is: 'logic' is the wrong tool there, so the result is literal chaos.

classical (logical) time estimate (use to allocate app versions)
elapsed = operations*efficiency*peak_throughput

which is simply naive to uncertainty in all three parameters.

improved stochastic model:
elapsed = operations*efficiency*peak_throughput*epsilon1 + epsilon2

elapsed now being a probability density function with epsilon1 & 2 being noise functions (from simple gauss-linear to compound).
Chaos: When the present determines the future, but the approximate present does not approximately determine the future.
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Message 52433 - Posted: 16 Sep 2014, 3:55:37 UTC - in response to Message 52416.  
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<quote>Bad news... Seems like mail providers start war.</quote>

That's a good assessment. Anything from aol and most everything from hotmail goes into gmail spam, no matter how many times I click "not spam".


Just cc'd a query in the 'quest' email thread (not related to this thread directly), from my usual hotmail, so if it doesn't get through please let me know and I'll switch to using gmail more.
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Message 52434 - Posted: 16 Sep 2014, 8:42:09 UTC

3-way inconclusive with the new v7.04 NV app. WU 6593335

One wingmate is the slightly-suspect Mac intel_gpu, but the other is v7.03 (sse2). Task is 30/30 exit on all hosts, but late in the run.
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Message 52435 - Posted: 16 Sep 2014, 11:45:04 UTC

14 tasks with 'AstroPulse v7 v7.04 (opencl_nvidia_cc1)' (astropulse_7.04_windows_intelx86__opencl_nvidia_100.exe) - to now no finish error.

AstroPulse v7 v7.03 (opencl_nvidia_100) tasks started with estimated times of 1 hour and 30 mins.
AstroPulse v7 v7.04 (opencl_nvidia_cc1) tasks have now 14 hours 45 mins.
[before the time is correct]
Why so much different?

BTW, if 'everything' will go well, when we could see this APv7 at SETI Main?
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Message 52436 - Posted: 16 Sep 2014, 12:01:35 UTC - in response to Message 52434.  
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Richard Haselgrove wrote:
3-way inconclusive with the new v7.04 NV app. WU 6593335

One wingmate is the slightly-suspect Mac intel_gpu, but the other is v7.03 (sse2). Task is 30/30 exit on all hosts, but late in the run.

The 4th result come from my PC.
I 'forced' the calculation of this tasks immediately - so that the result is there ASAP.

[EDIT: Done.]
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