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Message 20334 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 22:00:18 UTC

See this computer (just an example, not an accusation): 14358

Is this some kind of Mac enhancement that PC users are not allowed to have?

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Message 20337 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 22:41:49 UTC - in response to Message 20334.

See this computer (just an example, not an accusation): 14358

Is this some kind of Mac enhancement that PC users are not allowed to have?

My 200 MHz. Pentium MMX Win95 system now also has a 500 quota. I'd guess the change was intentional for Demiurg to be able to burn in his 160 CPU system. That'll give him 2000/day, I hope the splitters can keep up.
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Message 20340 - Posted: 23 Apr 2007, 23:55:49 UTC - in response to Message 20337.
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I'd guess the change was intentional for Demiurg to be able to burn in his 160 CPU system. That'll give him 2000/day, I hope the splitters can keep up.
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WOW! that's great. Way To Go Carl!

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Message 20344 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 0:34:17 UTC - in response to Message 20337.




My 200 MHz. Pentium MMX Win95 system now also has a 500 quota. I'd guess the change was intentional for Demiurg to be able to burn in his 160 CPU system.
that'll give him 2000/day,
Joe

Hi Joe

my three (3) computers still show: Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 50/day ?
which gives me 200 per day per computer
Joe is that corect for my computers ?

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Message 20345 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 0:54:34 UTC

My computer is still at 50/cpu =100 a day unless there are errors this doesnt seem to be a problem to me


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Message 20350 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 1:49:17 UTC






My 200 MHz. Pentium MMX Win95 system now also has a 500 quota. I'd guess the change was intentional for Demiurg to be able to burn in his 160 CPU system.
that'll give him 2000/day,
Joe

Hi Joe

my three (3) computers still show: Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 50/day ?
which gives me 200 per day per computer
Joe is that corect for my computers ?

this does seem to be a problem to me



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Message 20359 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 4:25:23 UTC - in response to Message 20350.

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Hi Joe

my three (3) computers still show: Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 50/day ?
which gives me 200 per day per computer
Joe is that corect for my computers ?

this does seem to be a problem to me
...
Byron

That's the way it has been for months, I was just guessing why a change might have been instituted.

I agree there's some kind of problem. I checked my other hosts, 10490 is also at 500, but 2605 is still at 50. Perhaps an update script quit without making all the intended changes, or maybe the changes were accidental.
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Message 20361 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 4:30:46 UTC - in response to Message 20359.



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Hi Joe

my three (3) computers still show: Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 50/day ?
which gives me 200 per day per computer
Joe is that corect for my computers ?

this does seem to be a problem to me
...
Byron

That's the way it has been for months, I was just guessing why a change might have been instituted.

I agree there's some kind of problem. I checked my other hosts, 10490 is also at 500, but 2605 is still at 50. Perhaps an update script quit without making all the intended changes, or maybe the changes were accidental.
Joe

Joe ... thanks for that information

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Message 20367 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 5:35:26 UTC

I think when the quota is changed you have to return tasks successfully for it to increase on your hosts. That would explain why some hosts are up and some are not.

On the other hand an accident is very plausable as well.
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Message 20369 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 6:20:02 UTC

Mine is still at 50, the 500 may be some kind of mistake. Although with that new computer you really do need a huge allotment of WUs. I recall that there is a 200 (or 400?) max daily limit. Should there now be a change in the Boinc code to allow any number of CPUs? I think that even now that would be more fair to users of 8 CPU machines which are becomming more common.

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Message 20372 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 8:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 20367.

I think when the quota is changed you have to return tasks successfully for it to increase on your hosts. That would explain why some hosts are up and some are not.
On the other hand an accident is very plausable as well.

John ... thanks for that information ... your ideas sound reasonable.

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Message 20382 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 9:22:26 UTC

Yikes! Assume the 4 CPU/host limit still applies: that's 2000 WUs a day, at 8MB each, or 16GB/day. Let's hope they don't make another typo in the Astropulse splitter, or I'm going to have to have words with my ISP.

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Message 20415 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 13:24:44 UTC - in response to Message 20382.

Yikes! Assume the 4 CPU/host limit still applies: that's 2000 WUs a day, at 8MB each, or 16GB/day. Let's hope they don't make another typo in the Astropulse splitter, or I'm going to have to have words with my ISP.

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Message 20453 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 15:20:12 UTC

I am amazed and grateful that they have cranked up the quota for my little testrun. I was thinking about massing a bunch on the office PCs and then download them onto the simulator, but no need now.
We tested some main WUs earlier today without a problem. They where copies from my WUs on this account which we did not send in. It was a dry run to see if they matched the ones I do on this computer and they did. Now we are going to test a few Betas to. We don't really want to give out corrupt data just by a little test.

But the mains clocked in between 26 and 33 seconds for 62 cobblestone Wus and the results matched my regular computer. So 2000 WUs would be more than sixteen hours of main WU work. But, we used an optimized app for that, which we will not use on Beta WUs so not to corrupt results. So 2000 WUs will be more than enough:-)

But, still we need to test them first.

By the way, Johan our programmer lifts his hat at the guys at KWSN, he said it was about the best opt he had seen.
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Message 20462 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 16:00:22 UTC

Carl ... Way To Go! ... keep up the good work! ... Byron.

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Message 20464 - Posted: 24 Apr 2007, 16:14:41 UTC

Well, I wish that we could use it at least on weekends to run Seti, but with 64 thousand simulations that take one week each on a Core Duo waiting to be run even this computer is to small for our current needs.

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Message 20593 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 15:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 20464.

Well, I wish that we could use it at least on weekends to run Seti, but with 64 thousand simulations that take one week each on a Core Duo waiting to be run even this computer is to small for our current needs.

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If the work is so important, and now that you've spent three months working out how it's done, couldn't you persuade your bosses of the benefits of having a hot spare?

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Message 20606 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 17:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 20593.
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Well, I wish that we could use it at least on weekends to run Seti, but with 64 thousand simulations that take one week each on a Core Duo waiting to be run even this computer is to small for our current needs.

Carl

If the work is so important, and now that you've spent three months working out how it's done, couldn't you persuade your bosses of the benefits of having a hot spare?


I wish... You know it is an expensive piece of machinery and still we have had to shoestring it a lot. Guess why we are reusing the Sun E5500 cabinets. Prio uno right is to expand it so that I get a cube with 8 by 8 by 8 processes instead of the current topology of 8*8*4. And this is still just a simulation of the computer that we really would need. A cube with 64*64*64 processes, then we would only need 64 computational steps to finnish one simulation.

If someone got confused. Yes we have a computer simulating that it is a bigger computer running simulations... I could actually see my overheating baldspot grow as I mapped it out. If I could get a redesign of myself I would opt for fluid cooling of my head.

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Message 20630 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 19:44:23 UTC

In the realm of curious facts, yesterday when I checked the quotas for systems of those who have posted in this thread, all were at 500/day. Today, Byron's systems remain at 500, all others are at 50 (including the Mac system mentioned in the original post).

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Message 20637 - Posted: 25 Apr 2007, 20:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 20630.

In the realm of curious facts, yesterday when I checked the quotas for systems of those who have posted in this thread, all were at 500/day. Today, Byron's systems remain at 500, all others are at 50 (including the Mac system mentioned in the original post).
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Good spotting Joe!
hmmmm ..... I wonder what the reason for this is ?
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