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Message 85447 - Posted: 12 Mar 2005, 19:11:13 UTC

I am running BOINC 4.25 on my XP Pro setup. I have narrowed down a very odd problem to the BOINC app or screensaver.

What happens is that randomly when the BOINC app takes over when the computer is idle, if I then move the mouse and kick the program out of BOINC processing, the windows "shut down windows" dialog will come up - after closing/quitting all my open applications.

I have found that by hitting CTRL-ALT-DEL and then cancel at the windows security dialog, it alleviates this situation, but it is very annoying and causes me lost productivity when my open apps get forced closed.

I am certain this is caused by BOINC, as if I quit the BOINC app, and then change to the default (or no) screensaver, this does not happen.

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Thoughts as to what is going on here???

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Message 85658 - Posted: 13 Mar 2005, 12:14:07 UTC

Have you got the secure desktop enabled? ie. Do you have to enter a password to get out of the screensaver? You may want to check your screensaver properties for this as well. There were a couple of the test versions that would check that box for you automatically, I thought it had been fixed before release though.
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Message 85678 - Posted: 13 Mar 2005, 14:27:56 UTC - in response to Message 85658.  

> Have you got the secure desktop enabled? ie. Do you have to enter a password
> to get out of the screensaver? You may want to check your screensaver
> properties for this as well. There were a couple of the test versions that
> would check that box for you automatically, I thought it had been fixed before
> release though.
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I have the same issue. Once in a while the BOINC screensaver will cause the Shut Down Windows dialog window to come up repeatedly (after is has killed all my applications) until I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del. I have version 4.25 of BOINC. I do not have to enter a password for my screen saver.
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Message 85687 - Posted: 13 Mar 2005, 15:34:19 UTC

I am also having the same issue. It was occuring with 4.19, so I upgraded to 4.25, but still get the problem.

To the questions:
No on password for screensaver
No on secure desktop

I can't track down the issue, except for the sole fact that BOINC has been running. I switch to a different screensaver to test that, and had no issues with any other screen saver.

I hope we can figure this out. It is EXTREMELY annoying.
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Message 85710 - Posted: 13 Mar 2005, 16:59:27 UTC - in response to Message 85658.  

> Have you got the secure desktop enabled? ie. Do you have to enter a password
> to get out of the screensaver? You may want to check your screensaver
> properties for this as well. There were a couple of the test versions that
> would check that box for you automatically, I thought it had been fixed before
> release though.
>

no password on screensaver
no secure desktop

happens about 33% of the time when the BOINC screensaver is on. Not every time but approaching half the time.

EXTREMELY annoying. The application is somehow interacting in a BAD way with the OS.

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Message 85815 - Posted: 13 Mar 2005, 22:58:11 UTC - in response to Message 85658.  

> Have you got the secure desktop enabled? ie. Do you have to enter a password
> to get out of the screensaver? You may want to check your screensaver
> properties for this as well. There were a couple of the test versions that
> would check that box for you automatically, I thought it had been fixed before
> release though.

To the questions:
No on password for screensaver
No on secure desktop

Anyone come up with a solution for this yet? I have had to stop using BOINC until the issue can be resolved.


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Message 85822 - Posted: 13 Mar 2005, 23:39:13 UTC

What are the power options set to? Two items - the "system standy" setting in the "Power Schemes" tab and the "Advanced" tab where it says "Prompt for password when computer resumes from standby" - what are they set to?

If you intend to run BOINC when your system is idle, might be better to set the "System Standby" time to "never". Same with "turn off hard disks".
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Message 85914 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 5:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 85822.  

> What are the power options set to? Two items - the "system standy" setting
> in the "Power Schemes" tab and the "Advanced" tab where it says "Prompt for
> password when computer resumes from standby" - what are they set to?
>
> If you intend to run BOINC when your system is idle, might be better to set
> the "System Standby" time to "never". Same with "turn off hard disks".
>

System Standby: NEVER
Turn off Monitor: 20 Min
Turn off HD's: NEVER

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Prompt For password when computer resumes: UNCHECKED
=
Screensaver is set to come on after 4 minutes of idle time, then go to black screen at 18 minutes, and monitor to go to sleep at 20 min.


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Message 86134 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 19:56:04 UTC - in response to Message 85658.  

> Have you got the secure desktop enabled? ie. Do you have to enter a password
> to get out of the screensaver? You may want to check your screensaver
> properties for this as well. There were a couple of the test versions that
> would check that box for you automatically, I thought it had been fixed before
> release though.


Anyone ever track down the cause of this?

I made sure that Secure desktop was not enabled, turned off system standby and even had the hard drives and monitors never shut down. But the instant it goes to the BOINC screen saver it STILL starts popping up the Shut Down dialog box, and wont quit until I go into task manager.
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Message 86161 - Posted: 14 Mar 2005, 22:22:24 UTC - in response to Message 86134.  

> Anyone ever track down the cause of this?
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> I made sure that Secure desktop was not enabled, turned off system standby and
> even had the hard drives and monitors never shut down. But the instant it goes
> to the BOINC screen saver it STILL starts popping up the Shut Down dialog box,
> and wont quit until I go into task manager.

Have you tried it without the screen saver?
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Message 86196 - Posted: 15 Mar 2005, 1:40:15 UTC - in response to Message 86161.  
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> Have you tried it without the screen saver?
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Yes, it works fine without the screensaver. So it is isolated to the screensaver itself. I would like to get that part working again though. It is the most enjoyable part to look at. :-)


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Message 86304 - Posted: 15 Mar 2005, 11:59:03 UTC

I've had the same prob with version 4.25
and it seams to be about 50% of the time
most often after exteneded periods of time
power settings dont seam to effect it in anyway

Im upgrading to v4.26beta see if that helps...
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Message 86410 - Posted: 15 Mar 2005, 19:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 86304.  

> I've had the same prob with version 4.25
> and it seams to be about 50% of the time
> most often after exteneded periods of time
> power settings dont seam to effect it in anyway
>
> Im upgrading to v4.26beta see if that helps...
>

Anyways... v4.26 seams to do less of that bs
however when it does that it also minimizes and maxes
any open progs i have running, but it does it a lot less...
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Message 86442 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 0:13:53 UTC - in response to Message 86410.  
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> Anyways... v4.26 seams to do less of that bs
> however when it does that it also minimizes and maxes
> any open progs i have running, but it does it a lot less...
>

4.26 beta didn't do a thing for me. I caused the same issue the same amount of time. Wish we could hear something for the programmers themselves. Do they ever check these boards you think?


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Message 86476 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 3:05:14 UTC

It has been reported.


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Message 86637 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 18:26:02 UTC - in response to Message 85687.  

> I am also having the same issue. It was occuring with 4.19, so I upgraded to
> 4.25, but still get the problem.
>
> To the questions:
> No on password for screensaver
> No on secure desktop
>
> I can't track down the issue, except for the sole fact that BOINC has been
> running. I switch to a different screensaver to test that, and had no issues
> with any other screen saver.
>
> I hope we can figure this out. It is EXTREMELY annoying.
> Thanks,
> Dave Green
>
>

I had something very similar whcih caused a full reboot after a period of idle, which seems to be a problem when the screen saver is forced on. But, I do not use a screen saver, and annoyingly the total lack of configuration information or setting ability does not help. This is a problem on my normal workstation. But on another machine (also XP Pro 2) I am running BOINC in parallel with a single instance of seti classic. Again no screen saver apart from blank screen, no power settings (always on), and this runs fine. Though classic has priority (thankfully continuing to add credits in a more rational manner than BOINC does) and BOINC gets approx 1 sec every 30secs or so of cpu time. I suspect there is an issue with the idle time detection and what it does.

On my general workstation I have uninstalled BOINC and everything works fine.
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Message 86657 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 19:47:03 UTC

Are you by change using the Microsoft Intellitype/Intellipoint software?

I would have that same thing happen when I had that software installed on my machine.

I uninstalled both Intellitype/Intellipoint and the problem went away.

Although, the problem happened for me with any screensaver.

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Message 86661 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 20:00:42 UTC

When I still had the mouse and keyboard software on my computer, I did some investigation, and as far as I could tell, the keyboard software believed it was responding to a close button keypress.

It would close an additional application every minute until all of them were closed.

I dumped out all of the messages being sent to the screensaver's message pump and nothing out of the oridinary appeared in the logging.

The only message the screensaver ever broadcasts is:
RegisterWindowMessage(TEXT("BOINCSetForegroundWindow"))

So as far as I could tell at the time, it was a bug in the intellitype/intellipoint software, and I didn't go any further with the investigation.


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Message 86742 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 23:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 86661.  
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I am using both Intellitype/Intellipoint, however, uninstallation of those apps/drivers is not an option for me. I am running the latest version of each of the drivers.

I even have all the log off and sleep button functionality disabled within the keyboard software. Those options have been turned off longer than BOINC has been on my machine. If I want to log off, I use the log off / Start menu.




> When I still had the mouse and keyboard software on my computer, I did some
> investigation, and as far as I could tell, the keyboard software believed it
> was responding to a close button keypress.
>
> It would close an additional application every minute until all of them were
> closed.
>
> I dumped out all of the messages being sent to the screensaver's message pump
> and nothing out of the oridinary appeared in the logging.
>
> The only message the screensaver ever broadcasts is:
> RegisterWindowMessage(TEXT("BOINCSetForegroundWindow"))
>
> So as far as I could tell at the time, it was a bug in the
> intellitype/intellipoint software, and I didn't go any further with the
> investigation.
>
>
>
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Message 86747 - Posted: 16 Mar 2005, 23:46:21 UTC - in response to Message 86742.  

> I am using both Intellitype/Intellipoint, however, uninstallation of those
> apps/drivers is not an option for me. I am running the latest version of each
> of the drivers.

I was running 5.2 which I believe is the latest.

> I even have all the log off and sleep button functionality disabled within the
> keyboard software. Those options have been turned off longer than BOINC has
> been on my machine. If I want to log off, I use the log off / Start menu.

I did that too, to no avail.

Does Intellitype/Intellipoint freak out when you select any of the default screen savers? Mine did, but it would help greatly if I could narrow down the list of different variables.


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