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Message 464506 - Posted: 23 Nov 2006, 23:40:46 UTC - in response to Message 464496.  

I get the same error message with the new zip file


Not sure what happens on your side ... the host i'm trying it on is a P3/500 MHz with Windows XP no service packs applied (tested it on an athlon 64 too worked well ...)

OK now one more try .. i totaly recompile the client ... give me some minutes...
i'll let you know, when i'm done...



OK onw ...last try ...

5.7.5.32-3 is now on my page ... works well on my dual p3/500 win xp no service packs...

and on my notebook athlon64 xp SP2...


try it or ...





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Message 464522 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:16:26 UTC

Crunch..........I am getting the following error. This occurs on two remote and headless boxes on my LAN so I use the remote login for windows XP.

Could not start the Boinc service on local computer.

Error 14001: This has failed to start because the application configuration is not correct. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.


This using your -3 version also.

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Message 464523 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:17:54 UTC - in response to Message 464468.  

return_results_immediately was meant for debugging purposes only. Since it was used for other than that, it was removed from the stock client. It does add load to the servers as a large portion of the time is spent per connection to the scheduler rather than per result.


Sorry John,

i do debugging... so it's i can use it on my own ... no one is forced to use third party clients & apps...

If you don't like it don't use it ... sorry





I have no problem with you using return_results_immediately, I know that you are developing various clients (and your work is appreciated). The problem is with general use - it does tend to eat resources at the server side.


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Message 464527 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:32:40 UTC

I still get the same error message thanks for the help and your work
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Message 464532 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:42:46 UTC - in response to Message 464488.  

John....I appreciate your concerns but I see the following. By the way I only crunch for Seti.

Cpu is crunching along and suddenly a real short work unit comes in with a return time that is really close. You know the ones that give 10 to 20 credits or so and don't take long to crunch. I don't have a problem with crunching the new work first or EDF as it is known. Cpu drops what it is doing to crunch the new work unit. This new work unit usually will finish well before it's original estimated time. When this work unit finishes the estimated crunch time for the remaining work units in the cache is suddenly increased NOT decreased. I have seen the remaing cache work times be increased by more than 1 hour for each work unit in the cache! If you have a cache of 4 day's like I carry suddenly you have a cache of 6 day's or more WITHOUT having downloading anything. Now the cpu just keeps on crunching the cache but does not return anything until the cache is down below 4 day's again. In other words it can crunch for day's without contacting Berkeley and returning the finished work.

Seems the predicted time for a work unit can increase by any number of minutes, even more than 60 in one jump but only reduces by a few minutes or even seconds after another work unit is finished.

This is why I like the return_results_immediately function. At least I keep returning finished work while the cache estimated work time is decreased back to the original 4 day estimate.


You may have your reasons, but I don't see what is wrong with not contacting the Berkeley servers for over 4 days or more. I have a 7 day cache, and sometimes I don't contact for over 5 or more (sometimes all 7).

Once your computer works through it's cache, it will download more when it needs to. Why insist on keeping the cache full at 4 days for the entire duration? Let BOINC manage the cache and return results when it needs to. That's my opinion.
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Message 464536 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 0:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 464506.  

I get the same error message with the new zip file


Not sure what happens on your side ... the host i'm trying it on is a P3/500 MHz with Windows XP no service packs applied (tested it on an athlon 64 too worked well ...)

OK now one more try .. i totaly recompile the client ... give me some minutes...
i'll let you know, when i'm done...



OK onw ...last try ...

5.7.5.32-3 is now on my page ... works well on my dual p3/500 win xp no service packs...

and on my notebook athlon64 xp SP2...


try it or ...






Hi Crunch3r, I gave the 32 bit version a try under wine:


prescott1:~/install/crunch3r/boinc# wine boinc.exe
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\zlib1.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library zlib1.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\LIBEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library LIBEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\LIBEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library LIBEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\SSLEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\SSLEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library SSLEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\zlib1.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library zlib1.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\libcurl.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library libcurl.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR71.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\LIBEAY32.dll") not found
err:module:import_dll Library LIBEAY32.dll (which is needed by L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"Z:\\\\root\\\\install\\\\crunch3r\\\\boinc\\\\boinc.exe" failed, status c0000135


The missing libraries listed there might be useful for debugging the Windows issues you see ATM

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Message 464748 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 6:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 464465.  
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Hello Folks,

there's an update for the BOINC clients available my page.

Versions:
5.7.5.32 32 bit Windows
5.7.5.64 64 bit Windows

features:
cpu affinity & return resuls immediately





Hey Crunch3r, I'm having a problem with Your 64bit Windows XP x64 Client and DeNitro's XP x64 64bit apps, On startup of Boinc and when doing a benchmark(Not all the time though on either one) and regardless of My cpu speed(Stock speed is 2.0GHz and overclocked with Ntune is 2.3GHz, Bios provides voltage support only) I get this:

Note: I do not get any problems when I use a 32bit app of course, Just with 64bit apps for some reason. And this also happened with Your original 5.7.64 client too. DeNitro has said He can't find a problem with the app and since the Benchmark is done by the client, I'm thinking something in Your clients doesn't quite like 64bit XP apps.

11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Starting BOINC client version 5.7.5 for windows_intelx86
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.15.5
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Data directory: C:\\Program Files (x86)\\BOINC
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 3.87 GB virtual
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Disk: 74.52 GB total, 7.44 GB free
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Version change (5.7.64 -> 5.7.5); running CPU benchmarks
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM|Einstein@Home|URL: http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID: 732308; location: home; project prefs: default
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 2483868; location: home; project prefs: default
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 2006-11-20 20:10:33)
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||Host location: home
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||BOINC 5.7.5.64 - 64 bit Edition by Crunch3r
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||enabled features:
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||-cpu_affinity
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||-return_results_immediately
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||
11/23/2006 8:40:53 AM||
11/23/2006 8:40:55 AM||Running CPU benchmarks
11/23/2006 8:41:54 AM||Benchmark results:
11/23/2006 8:41:54 AM|| Number of CPUs: 4
11/23/2006 8:41:54 AM|| 2145 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
11/23/2006 8:41:54 AM|| 5535 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
11/23/2006 8:41:55 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 16jn03ab.14213.23793.761084.3.24_3 using setiathome_enhanced version 515
11/23/2006 8:41:55 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 18jn03aa.23749.14912.659648.3.69_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 515
11/23/2006 8:41:55 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 06jn03aa.25044.2416.547146.3.14_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 515
11/23/2006 8:41:55 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 06jn03aa.25044.2464.209640.3.50_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 515
11/23/2006 8:42:04 AM|SETI@home|Unrecoverable error for result 18jn03aa.23749.14912.659648.3.69_0 ( - exit code -1073741811 (0xc000000d))
11/23/2006 8:42:04 AM|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
11/23/2006 8:42:04 AM|SETI@home|Computation for task 18jn03aa.23749.14912.659648.3.69_0 finished
11/23/2006 8:42:04 AM||Starting 06jn03aa.25044.2705.636084.3.85_2
11/23/2006 8:42:04 AM|SETI@home|Starting task 06jn03aa.25044.2705.636084.3.85_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 515
11/23/2006 8:42:06 AM|SETI@home|Started upload of file 18jn03aa.23749.14912.659648.3.69_0_0
11/23/2006 8:42:08 AM|SETI@home|Finished upload of file 18jn03aa.23749.14912.659648.3.69_0_0
11/23/2006 8:42:08 AM|SETI@home|Throughput 43110 bytes/sec
11/23/2006 8:42:27 AM||Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks
11/23/2006 8:42:29 AM||Running CPU benchmarks
11/23/2006 8:43:06 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks
11/23/2006 8:43:06 AM|SETI@home|Reporting 1 tasks
11/23/2006 8:43:11 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 507]
11/23/2006 8:43:11 AM|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 11 seconds
11/23/2006 8:43:28 AM||Benchmark results:
11/23/2006 8:43:28 AM|| Number of CPUs: 4
11/23/2006 8:43:28 AM|| 2144 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
11/23/2006 8:43:28 AM|| 5520 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
11/23/2006 8:43:29 AM||Resuming computation
11/23/2006 8:43:53 AM|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
11/23/2006 8:43:53 AM|SETI@home|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
11/23/2006 8:43:58 AM|SETI@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 507]
11/23/2006 8:43:58 AM|SETI@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 11 seconds


Hi Batman or Joker ; )

the stuff or error your refering to is a ( MY GUESS !!) function call from BONC to the windows API.... it's not replated to the seti app.... it's somthing that has popped up on most projects like malaria,chess960, rosetta etc...

I guess it's a problem in theboinc souce itself that causes these issues. I myself have never experienced those problems at all ... but google yourself ...


My best bet is that it's a bad function call from boinc on the windows api that causes that apps to crash ... not my issue..ask Rom Walton ... he develops 95% of BOINC ..he's the one you should ask...




@ Ok, will do Crunch3r. Oh and It's Batman.

@ Rom, We have an error that is affecting this XP64 Client and app. Could You please Help on this?
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Message 464752 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 6:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 464479.  

Having problems with the new 5.7.5.32 32 bit windows BOINC client after I copy the files from the zip file I get the following error message. (The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0150002). Click on OK to terminate the application)


I'm getting the same problem with (only) one of my 13 windows machines. I tried v3, but no change.

Interestingly enough, I deleted those files, reinstalled (repaired) using 5.4.11. But returned WUs still show as 5.7.5. The Get Info from BOINCmgr says it's really running 5.4.11.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=418613884
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Message 464774 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 10:37:32 UTC - in response to Message 464752.  

Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.


The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.






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Message 464895 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 16:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 464774.  

Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.

The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.


Worked like a charm. Question: For those machines that v1 worked on, do I need to upgrade them? In other words, is there the potential that something will fail over time? Or, since it installed without the issue, I have nothing to worry about? Thanks again!
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Message 464996 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 18:50:03 UTC - in response to Message 464895.  

Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.

The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.


Worked like a charm. Question: For those machines that v1 worked on, do I need to upgrade them? In other words, is there the potential that something will fail over time? Or, since it installed without the issue, I have nothing to worry about? Thanks again!


There's nothing to worry about. You can safely use the previous version, if it allready worked for you.






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Message 465046 - Posted: 24 Nov 2006, 19:17:58 UTC

Thanks Crunch3r works just fine now that fixed all the problems I had.
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Message 465428 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 8:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 464748.  


@ Rom, We have an error that is affecting this XP64 Client and app. Could You please Help on this?


Crunch3r et al,

For those using VS 2005 you'll need to add some additional code to the S@H app which can be found here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/app_debug_win.php#Common0xc000000d

Microsoft redesigned a bunch of stuff to reduce buffer overflows and the like, one of the things they did was enforce parameter validation for the CRT functions used in writing portable applications.

So when you see a 0xc000000d error code with an application that was compiled using VS2005, that is part of the problem.

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Message 465450 - Posted: 25 Nov 2006, 9:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 464212.  
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Hello Folks,

there's an update for the BOINC clients available my page.

Versions:
5.7.5.32 32 bit Windows
5.7.5.64 64 bit Windows

features:
cpu affinity & return resuls immediately



Hello Crunch3r,

on which Boinc Version I must install your files...
The 5.4.11 or the 5.7.5?

Now I use V5.3.12.tx36 with 'among other things' "delete_overdue"...
You know, if a deadline of a WU is like the date/time it'll be deleted.
It's possible to add/change this feature to delete a WU, because Boinc see it'll not be finished and reported in the deadline?

"process_priority" it's a good feature, or you think it's not needed?
If good, you would like to add this feature too?


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Message 470598 - Posted: 2 Dec 2006, 17:15:18 UTC - in response to Message 464996.  
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Hi Folks,

sorry for the trouble, but finaly i found out what was going wrong.

The new 5.7.5.32 fixed boinc client is on my page now.


Worked like a charm. Question: For those machines that v1 worked on, do I need to upgrade them? In other words, is there the potential that something will fail over time? Or, since it installed without the issue, I have nothing to worry about? Thanks again!


There's nothing to worry about. You can safely use the previous version, if it allready worked for you.


@Crunch3r:

After uninstalling any boinc software and reinstalling Boinc 5.4.11 in XP x64 and then following Your directions on Your website(I felt I just needed a clean install of Boinc), Boinc 5.7.64 or 5.7.5 will not start as Boinc complains It can't find Boinc.dll and It's there too as I copied the files to a seperate folder and I copied them from the zip file to the Boinc folder and both ways had the same result, No Boinc, Just an error with a Red Dot. Yet when I reinstall the missing 5.4.11 files Boinc works just fine, My app of course is a 32bit seti app. So what am I doing wrong?
(I went back to an earlier set of Your files and copied over some newer ones and found some were missing, My bad, Not Yours, So It's fixed)

Oh and Crunch could You or are You going to fix this error below? It happens when starting Boinc or doing a benchmark when a 64bit app is used with Your client.


@Crunch3r:

Crunch3r et al,

For those using VS 2005 you'll need to add some additional code to the S@H app which can be found here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/app_debug_win.php#Common0xc000000d

Microsoft redesigned a bunch of stuff to reduce buffer overflows and the like, one of the things they did was enforce parameter validation for the CRT functions used in writing portable applications.

So when you see a 0xc000000d error code with an application that was compiled using VS2005, that is part of the problem.

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Message 477443 - Posted: 9 Dec 2006, 17:30:58 UTC

Well My C2Q PC is online and crunching just fine, I cloned the system hdd of another PC with XP x64 on It with Acronis(the one that supports XP x64), Put a new XP x64 CD in the DVD drive, Did a repair install of XP x64, Changed the name of the PC to BatPC1, Reset the Seti Project on the new PC and started crunching all in less than 1 hour, Not bad considering that the cloned image had Nvidia chipset drivers in the OS and that the OS is now running on an Intel chipset. Oh and I'm using that Test6 Seti XP x64 app(64bit) on It, So far no overclocking, Yet.
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Message 477993 - Posted: 10 Dec 2006, 10:52:19 UTC

Hi. Thanks Crun3r. Installed OK as far as i can see so far. I just installed over the previous x64 version of yours. Mae backups etc and disconnected net first just in case of course.

Are the benchmarks necessary? Just seems a bit pointless now since they're not used. Or are they? Anyway seems like something that could just be dumped and clean the code a little. Anyway you'd know better than me.

What are the difference between this and the previous one?
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Message 478238 - Posted: 10 Dec 2006, 16:03:18 UTC - in response to Message 477993.  

Hi. Thanks Crun3r. Installed OK as far as i can see so far. I just installed over the previous x64 version of yours. Mae backups etc and disconnected net first just in case of course.

Are the benchmarks necessary? Just seems a bit pointless now since they're not used. Or are they? Anyway seems like something that could just be dumped and clean the code a little. Anyway you'd know better than me.

What are the difference between this and the previous one?
Scratch that. Not quite working properly. After closing and reopening Boinc it wont restart the work. I have to manually suspend and re-set it to work before it'll restart the work. Also I seem to be having a bit of trouble with setting the network preferences between suspended and always active. Also seems to set itself to network activity to always available when loading up boinc.
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Message 480953 - Posted: 12 Dec 2006, 16:32:01 UTC - in response to Message 480854.  

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The 64bit version wont work with Win2K

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Couln't someone like have mentioned this before I futile started to try to install this to my Core 2 Duo E6400 and my AMD 64 3000+ PC !!!!!!


I posted this in response to your other post about this. Of course it won't work with Windows 2000. Windows 2000 is a 32 bit operating system. One needs to use Windows XP x64 Edition or one of the Linux 64 bit operating systems to use the Optimized BOINC 64 bit software.
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The 64bit version wont work with Win2K

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Couln't someone like have mentioned this before I futile started to try to install this to my Core 2 Duo E6400 and my AMD 64 3000+ PC !!!!!!


If you don't understand that Win2K is a 32bit OS and X64 is a 64bit OS, then why are you installing anything without asking first?

Why would you even waste your time running Win2K on a nice system like that? Upgrade to X64 to get the real benefit of the expensive hardware you purchased.

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