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Message 1898691 - Posted: 2 Nov 2017, 14:36:00 UTC

A heads-up from the kitties.
Check your fire extinguishers!!
40 million or more recalled by Kidde.
RECALL ALERT: More than 40M fire extinguishers that may not work recalled.
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Message 1898764 - Posted: 2 Nov 2017, 21:22:54 UTC

Thanks Mark.
Looked at mine. It's a First Alert but is older than dirt (10+ yrs). Will look into replacing it very soon. Never know when it will be needed.

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Message 1898813 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 2:45:15 UTC

Thanks Mark. I have two in the house, None are Kidde. But both are over ten years old. And one has a low charge. Plus I need to get two more for our cars.
Ive been meaning to check them for awhile now. Thanks for getting me off my butt and checking.
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Message 1898822 - Posted: 3 Nov 2017, 3:50:00 UTC

Thanks Mark. Everything we have is metal handle, so not included.
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Message 1899044 - Posted: 4 Nov 2017, 6:58:41 UTC

I have a small Kidde in the kitchen but it doesn't seem to affect any sold in the UK as far as I know.
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Message 1899081 - Posted: 4 Nov 2017, 13:25:14 UTC

The article says the affected units were sold in the US and Canada so I think you are safe, Chris.

And even though nobody has found that they have a defective Kidde unit so far, I am still happy to know that some of you have inspected what you have and have found them lacking due to condition or age.

Like smoke detector batteries, another good thing to have a look at whenever we go through the clock setting routines of daylight saving time adjustment.

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Message 1899141 - Posted: 4 Nov 2017, 18:33:45 UTC
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Hey Mark. Do you know what is a reasonable life span before replacement should be considered for a kitchen extinguisher?

Did a internet check and found this. Does it sound about in the ballpark range?

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What is a fire extinguisher life expectancy?

Non-rechargeable fire extinguishers generally have a 6 year life expectancy. Keep in mind life expectancy depends on a number of factors. A fire extinguisher should be tested weekly according to the user's manual. As long as the pointer is in the green area or the pin indicator pops back up when pushed, the extinguisher is properly pressurized and ready to use.
»www.firstalert.com/resources/faq

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Message 1899151 - Posted: 4 Nov 2017, 19:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 1899141.  

I am not personally aware of a broad recommendation, but I found am reading 5 to 10 years for a good commercial unit, and about 3 years for ones that are considered 'throw-aways'. Meaning they are not intended to be rechargeable.
Of course, all extinguishers of any type require at least annual inspections.
I have a very old dry chemical one here. The gauge is still in the middle of the green zone, but I suspect I should really replace it due to it's age.
I have also been intending to get one to keep in the car.
Probably time for me to get offa my own butt and attend to this matter.

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Message 1899206 - Posted: 5 Nov 2017, 0:29:05 UTC

Both of mine are rechargeable. But I know that the one that is 11 years old now, Was a replacement for one that was only half charged. And they would not recharge it because it was over 10 years old.
I'm going to look into seeing what the price difference is between a basically one time use and rechargeable one. Mine are 2 1/2 pound ABC extinguishers. Which as a Air Force fire fighter and was once a volunteer fire fighter is what we trained with a lot. I know they are not very good on large wood fires. But they can put out a good size oil fire.
I'm considering going to a Halon or whatever they use now days for a grease fire in a kitchen. I had one in my own home once and had to use a dry-chem extinguisher. It put the fire our quick but even a short burst made a huge mess.
I will keep both kinds in the house and dry-chemical in the cars. And as I type this extinguishers will be added to the shopping list.
So you did a great service Mark by calling attention to the recall. One never knows when having a workable fire extinguisher will prevent a major fire or save a life.
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Message 1899242 - Posted: 5 Nov 2017, 5:51:10 UTC

Extinguisher types have gotten a bit more interesting in the last few years. There are some new types of dry chemicals. It is a good thing to have more that one type available in a house as you may get different kinds of things on fire. Oh and class K for kitchen are wet.
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Message 1899340 - Posted: 5 Nov 2017, 16:34:06 UTC
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Rechargeable extinguishers should be recharged every 5 years, and the base/can/vase (whatever the term is: the "bottle"…) should be pressure tested every 10 years.

In answer to one of the questions posted, rechargeable units have a virtually unlimited lifespan, PROVIDED that they are recharged and pressure tested as above...

I've personally seen "wet" extinguishers that are over 80 years old in some of the older San Francisco buildings...

My personal extinguisher (in my kitchen...) is over 20, and has been used once - and recharged / pressure tested.
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Message 1899360 - Posted: 5 Nov 2017, 17:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 1899340.  

Rechargeable extinguishers should be recharged every 5 years, and the base/can/vase (whatever the term is: the "bottle"…) should be pressure tested every 10 years.

Around here the fire marshal wants yearly testing/recharge, at least for business use, and they do come and check the tags.
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Message 1899561 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 17:48:11 UTC - in response to Message 1899360.  

Rechargeable extinguishers should be recharged every 5 years, and the base/can/vase (whatever the term is: the "bottle"…) should be pressure tested every 10 years.

Around here the fire marshal wants yearly testing/recharge, at least for business use, and they do come and check the tags.


I was speaking for the home user...
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Message 1899582 - Posted: 6 Nov 2017, 19:28:49 UTC - in response to Message 1899561.  

Rechargeable extinguishers should be recharged every 5 years, and the base/can/vase (whatever the term is: the "bottle"…) should be pressure tested every 10 years.

Around here the fire marshal wants yearly testing/recharge, at least for business use, and they do come and check the tags.


I was speaking for the home user...
Yes, but is a home unit better made than a commercial one? Or what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander? If you want them to work, you want them to work.
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Message 1900480 - Posted: 11 Nov 2017, 5:36:37 UTC

I Bought two extinguishers today for our cars. Both are B C for cars, Trucks and boats. They are Kidde, But not on the recall list.
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Message 1900689 - Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 11:49:13 UTC - in response to Message 1900480.  

I Bought two extinguishers today for our cars. Both are B C for cars, Trucks and boats. They are Kidde, But not on the recall list.

Good move! It is still on my to do list.
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Message 1900807 - Posted: 13 Nov 2017, 2:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 1900689.  

I Bought two extinguishers today for our cars. Both are B C for cars, Trucks and boats. They are Kidde, But not on the recall list.

Good move! It is still on my to do list.

At $12.95 each that isn't a bad deal I thought. I still need to get off my butt and get the older ones tested and the one refilled up to pressure. I should just buy one more new one for the home and keep the old ones after being tested in both cars. After seeing many cars fires One extinguisher might not be enough.
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Message 1906330 - Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 3:06:27 UTC

Thank you Mark for the reminder. Once I get a replacement, how do I properly dispose the old one?
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Message 1906334 - Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 3:31:40 UTC

I don't have one...

But thanks for the warning.
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Message 1906384 - Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 8:05:57 UTC

In the UK - I would phone the local council and ask them.
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