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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 05 Posts: 2423 Credit: 15,878,738 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Here one can download initial versions of SETI7 optimized binaries for CPU (SSSE3 support required for now, that is, only Intel CPUs supported) and ATi/NV GPUs (SSE3 CPU support required). Low-end ATi GPUs are not supported in this build still. Low-end NV GPUs may require params tuning to avoid driver restarts. http://files.mail.ru/66TQD2 Binaries for usage on SETI beta project only (don't use them on SETI main project). Example of app_info.xml: <app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_v7</name> <user_friendly_name>SETI@home v7</user_friendly_name> </app> <file_info> <name>MB_6.10_win_x86_SSSE3x_CPU_r229_SETI7.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>MB_6.10_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_r229_SETI7.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r229.cl</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name> <version_num>691</version_num> <file_ref> <file_name>MB_6.10_win_x86_SSSE3x_CPU_r229_SETI7.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name> <version_num>691</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus> <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class> <cmdline>-period_iterations_num 1 -instances_per_device 1 -hp</cmdline> <flops>20987654321</flops> <file_ref> <file_name>MB_6.10_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_r229_SETI7.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r229.cl</file_name> <copy_file/> </file_ref> <coproc> <type>ATI</type> <count>1</count> </coproc> </app_version> </app_info> (example for ATi GPU given). News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
![]() Send message Joined: 7 Jun 09 Posts: 285 Credit: 2,822,466 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Thanks! At least which nVIDIA driver is needed/recommended? I have only the DLLs of stock S@h Enhanced 6.09 CUDA23, this wouldn't work together, right? I need to use the DLLs of the currently Lunatics Installer V0.37? All nVIDIA builds of S@h v7 will be OpenCL, or in future also CUDA? If also CUDA, which nVIDIA driver will be needed/recommended then? I need to leave the 190.38 driver? ;-) EDIT: Someone could post a completely CPU & nVIDIA app_info.xml example? - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home). - SETI@home needs your help. - ![]() |
Send message Joined: 29 May 06 Posts: 1037 Credit: 8,440,339 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Thanks! OpenCL support starts at 197.xx/recommended should be 266.58 or 267.24, Don't use the 270.xx drivers at the moment, there seems to be problems with GPU's downclocking, and possiblily extra CPU usage with OpenCL apps. I have only the DLLs of stock S@h Enhanced 6.09 CUDA23, this wouldn't work together, right? DLL's not required, these are OpenCL builds, All nVIDIA builds of S@h v7 will be OpenCL, or in future also CUDA? If also CUDA, which nVIDIA driver will be needed/recommended then? I need to leave the 190.38 driver? ;-) These are just initial conversions. EDIT: Someone could post a completely CPU & nVIDIA app_info.xml example? There are only 4 things to change in the posted app_info for Nvidia use, the filename (twice), change the <type>ATI</type> from ATI to CUDA, and change the <plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class> from ati13ati to cuda, and if you get driver restarts, increase the value for -period_iterations_num 1 Claggy |
![]() Send message Joined: 7 Jun 09 Posts: 285 Credit: 2,822,466 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I installed the CPU app. To now two results finished (completely with opt. app calculated), but they don't match with the wingmen, a third WU is needed. Both WUs were restarted. Maybe because of this? The counter show all, or after a restart a fresh start of the counter (visible in stderr output)? wuid=3345893 wuid=3345951 - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home). - SETI@home needs your help. - ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 05 Posts: 2423 Credit: 15,878,738 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Quite possible, will check checkpointing then. News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
![]() Send message Joined: 7 Jun 09 Posts: 285 Credit: 2,822,466 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The machine (CPU) finished more results.. (without restart): Already granted: wuid=3345766 wuid=3345763 wuid=3345759 wuid=3345746 wuid=3345727 Still pending: wuid=3345743 It's look like the granted Cr. are lower with r229 (~ 80 - 105 Cr.) than with stock 6.91 app (~ 130 - 160 Cr.) for 0.39x AR WUs. First the app name confused me (MB_6.10), why not only e.g. SETIv7_win_x86_SSSE3x_r229.exe for the CPU app? ;-) BTW. My currently app_info.xml (only CPU app).. <app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_v7</name> </app> <file_info> <name>MB_6.10_win_x86_SSSE3x_CPU_r229_SETI7.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name> <version_num>691</version_num> <file_ref> <file_name>MB_6.10_win_x86_SSSE3x_CPU_r229_SETI7.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info> - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home). - SETI@home needs your help. - ![]() |
Send message Joined: 29 May 06 Posts: 1037 Credit: 8,440,339 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It's look like the granted Cr. are lower with r229 (~ 80 - 105 Cr.) than with stock 6.91 app (~ 130 - 160 Cr.) for 0.39x AR WUs. Your host hasn't had its 10 validations yet on this application, (SETI@home v7 (anonymous platform, CPU)), until it gets to it's 11th validation credit granted will be slightly lower, (i see this with Astropulse_v505 on Seti Main a lot, where my wingman hasn't done 10 validations, Credit tends to be ~500, instead of ~700+) If you had been running anonymous platform already on v7 and already had an Average processing rate, and then you added a faster app you might also get a lower amount of Credit awarded until the Average processing rate adjusts, Claggy |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 05 Posts: 2423 Credit: 15,878,738 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Check if both opt and stock apps report same flops number for same AR task (better just for the same task).
Cause name creation automated, will be changed with release. News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
Send message Joined: 29 May 06 Posts: 1037 Credit: 8,440,339 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Sutaru, you don't need to detach/reattach to get Wu's marked up on the Server as being done on Anonymous platform, if you set NNT, copy all your Beta Wu's to a safe place, then reset the project, then copy the Wu's back, unset NNT, then when you next ask for work, the Server will resend each task (20 at a time) and it'll update the application name on your host's task pages, and you won't need to download the Wu's again as you already have them. All you did by making all those Wu's Abandoned is put those Wu's at the bottom of the Que for resending, now your wingmen will have to wait for months for them to get to the top of the Que again. Claggy |
![]() Send message Joined: 7 Jun 09 Posts: 285 Credit: 2,822,466 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It's look like the granted Cr. are lower with r229 (~ 80 - 105 Cr.) than with stock 6.91 app (~ 130 - 160 Cr.) for 0.39x AR WUs. The upper mentioned granted results with r229 and wingmen stock apps: wuid=3345766 Flopcounter: 50650142779621.570000 Flopcounter: 50655584499397.953000 (setiathome_v7 6.91 DevC++/MinGW (5 restarts)) wuid=3345763 Flopcounter: 50650844457707.055000 Flopcounter: 50651188795832.468750 (setiathome_v7 6.92 XCode GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5494) i386) wuid=3345759 Flopcounter: 50650966625717.891000 Flopcounter: 50660287849054.961000 (setiathome_v7 6.91 DevC++/MinGW (9 restarts with 4x No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting) wuid=3345746 Flopcounter: 50650873789047.578000 Flopcounter: 50652240737578.453000 (setiathome_v7 6.91 DevC++/MinGW (1 restart)) wuid=3345727 Flopcounter: 50649778750214.086000 Flopcounter: 50650117069607.406000 (setiathome_v7 6.91 DevC++/MinGW) You meant it like this? - Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home). - SETI@home needs your help. - ![]() |
Send message Joined: 3 Jan 07 Posts: 1451 Credit: 3,272,268 RAC: 0 ![]() |
It's look like the granted Cr. are lower with r229 (~ 80 - 105 Cr.) than with stock 6.91 app (~ 130 - 160 Cr.) for 0.39x AR WUs. Flopcounter is redundant, no longer linked to credit awards in any way. But best to keep it in, both in stderr_txt for sanity-checks like this, and as <fpops_cumulative> in the reported result in case Eric decides to reinstate manual credit awards. |
Send message Joined: 3 May 10 Posts: 88 Credit: 1,594,385 RAC: 0 ![]() |
A bit confused, as usual, have a SETI Beta account on my Q6600+ GTX470 host, but also want to create account on WIN7 rig (i7-2600 + 2 HD5870). Although it's 64bit BOINC, this should work, right? Ehh, sorry got it, my bad. :) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 05 Posts: 2530 Credit: 1,074,556 RAC: 0 ![]() |
You dont have to create a new account. Just use the same email adress and attach. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Send message Joined: 1 May 07 Posts: 556 Credit: 6,470,846 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Just suspended all WU’s dropped in app and restarted. BIONC Granted credit: wuid=3341133 wuid=3341137 wuid=3341151 wuid=3341153 wuid=3341127 wuid=3341145 wuid=3341142 wuid=3341139 wuid=3341138 Completed, validation inconclusive. wuid=3341157 wuid=3341156 wuid=3341140 Michael A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want it to do. |
Send message Joined: 3 May 10 Posts: 88 Credit: 1,594,385 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Too long, >10 hours, behind puter, isn't always good, but got 1 XP x86 (Q6600+GTX470), updated, also attached a Bêta Account on my i7-2600+2 HD5870, WIN7 x64, both are downloading and running. Looking OK. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 05 Posts: 2423 Credit: 15,878,738 RAC: 0 ![]() |
yes. So, opt app reports less flops and will recive less credit until "new credit system" will average all to nothing ;) News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
Send message Joined: 14 Oct 05 Posts: 1137 Credit: 1,848,733 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The fpops_cumulative from the flopcount is no longer used for anything server-side, and the difference in reported value is much less than 1% anyhow. Apps which don't have 10 completed/validated are treated differently in the credit calculations, so are anonymous platform apps. They're minority cases and there's less statistical data applicable. Joe |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 05 Posts: 2423 Credit: 15,878,738 RAC: 0 ![]() |
If so why I bother to keep them in code? LoL. flops calculations eat CPU cycles, will drop them completele then. News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 18 Aug 05 Posts: 2423 Credit: 15,878,738 RAC: 0 ![]() |
in rev 229 checkpointing is broken, so either try to complete tasks w/o restarts or suspend until next build arrives (or revert to stock if you can't wait ;) ) News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
Send message Joined: 3 Jan 07 Posts: 1451 Credit: 3,272,268 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Flopcounts are not currently used for anything server-side, ever since David (inadvertently) broke Eric's credit script. Best to check with Eric about future plans before you break it permanently, deliberately. |
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