Please use stock apps in SETI@home Beta.

Message boards : News : Please use stock apps in SETI@home Beta.
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 . . . 5 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Eric J Korpela
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project scientist
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 05
Posts: 1547
Credit: 26,981,856
RAC: 717
United States
Message 43181 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 16:16:37 UTC
Last modified: 6 Jul 2012, 17:47:42 UTC

For the next week or so, please use stock apps, not those obtained elsewhere, in SETI@home beta. If you are running with GPU only, please run both GPU and GPU.

If you have a long cache (a week or more) please cancel those results or reset the project. If you have a short cache (days) you can run them to completion.

Thank you. We're attempting to fix some validator issues. Too many anonymous platform results can make it hard to diagnose the problems.
ID: 43181 · Report as offensive
Profile Raistmer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Aug 05
Posts: 2423
Credit: 15,878,738
RAC: 0
Russia
Message 43186 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 17:09:44 UTC

What with already downloaded cache? should it be purged or completed and reported before switching to stock ?

News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer
ID: 43186 · Report as offensive
Profile Eric J Korpela
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project scientist
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 05
Posts: 1547
Credit: 26,981,856
RAC: 717
United States
Message 43188 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 17:47:55 UTC - in response to Message 43186.  

Original post modified.
ID: 43188 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Jun 09
Posts: 285
Credit: 2,822,466
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 43190 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 18:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 43181.  

You mean both - CPU and GPU? ;-)

- - - - - - - - - -

Maybe it would be fine to do this?

Stop BOINC (and project applications) complete.
Project folder, copy of the work units to a temporary folder.
Start BOINC, reset project.
Stop BOINC complete.
Project folder, delete all files and applications (empty). Copy all work units back.
Start BOINC and allow request of new work units.
*Re-sent*, the download will be skipped because the work units are already on the HDD - online re-marked as stock application.

But currently this don't work...
SETI@home Beta Test 06.07.2012 20:38:13 Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
[UTC + 02:00]


- Best regards! :-) - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home Main). - SETI@home needs your help. -
ID: 43190 · Report as offensive
Profile Eric J Korpela
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project scientist
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 05
Posts: 1547
Credit: 26,981,856
RAC: 717
United States
Message 43192 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 19:20:13 UTC - in response to Message 43190.  

It might work. Only one way to find out. ;)
ID: 43192 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Jun 09
Posts: 285
Credit: 2,822,466
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 43193 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 19:27:15 UTC - in response to Message 43192.  

Everything prepared...

I'm waiting...

...the project is still offline...

SETI@home Beta Test 06.07.2012 21:24:40 Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
[UTC + 02:00]

;-)


- Best regards! :-) - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home Main). - SETI@home needs your help. -
ID: 43193 · Report as offensive
Profile Eric J Korpela
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project scientist
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 05
Posts: 1547
Credit: 26,981,856
RAC: 717
United States
Message 43194 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 19:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 43193.  

It'll be back up now.

ID: 43194 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Jun 09
Posts: 285
Credit: 2,822,466
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 43195 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 19:52:03 UTC - in response to Message 43194.  

Yes, it worked... ;-)

Online they are re-marked as stock 6.04 now.
Example: resultid=10944492.

To now not shown in the host application overview...

Now I need to know how to let run 2 work units/GPU (and other settings)... ;-)


- Best regards! :-) - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home Main). - SETI@home needs your help. -
ID: 43195 · Report as offensive
Urs Echternacht
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Jan 06
Posts: 1038
Credit: 18,734,730
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 43196 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 20:02:22 UTC

First obvious thing to report after restart with stock AP app is the new runtime estimation for GPU : 1421:43:26 hours with a deadline on July 31st 2012. So the Remaining (estimated) is ca. three times longer than the deadline for the result.
_\|/_
U r s
ID: 43196 · Report as offensive
Profile Eric J Korpela
Volunteer moderator
Project administrator
Project developer
Project scientist
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 Mar 05
Posts: 1547
Credit: 26,981,856
RAC: 717
United States
Message 43197 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 20:10:52 UTC - in response to Message 43196.  

Hopefully those estimates will fix themselves quickly.

ID: 43197 · Report as offensive
Profile Sutaru Tsureku
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Jun 09
Posts: 285
Credit: 2,822,466
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 43198 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 20:10:53 UTC
Last modified: 6 Jul 2012, 20:12:02 UTC

Ohhh... they were GPU work units - it looks like...
To now I had only GPU enabled - and in past only this entries in app_info.xml file.

As BOINC asked only for GPU work units - it worked.

Then I enabled also CPU, then they all:
SETI@home Beta Test 06.07.2012 21:58:23 Didn't resend lost task xxxx (expired)


- Best regards! :-) - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC (@ SETI@home Main). - SETI@home needs your help. -
ID: 43198 · Report as offensive
Celeron M processor 1.50GHz
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Mar 12
Posts: 1659
Credit: 12,789,696
RAC: 7,691
Sweden
Message 43200 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 20:29:31 UTC
Last modified: 6 Jul 2012, 20:38:56 UTC

Well, something is wrong with 6.04 for ATI, for Nvidia I can get 6.04's without problems. I don't seem to be able to get any work for my HD4850 for OpenCL AP 6.04. It requests work for both CPU and GPU, but only get 6.01 for the CPU. I have even reset the project but still nothing for the GPU, even if Boinc asks for it

When Boinc asks for GPU work, the reply is:

2012-07-06 22:05:07 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

When I also tick Nvidia (which I shouldn't since I run ATI, the reply is simply:

2012-07-06 22:24:14 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6


Although at the same time the CPU 6.01, is freely handed out en masse.

Edit, added.

When unticking ATI the reply is stupidly that it exists work for ATI:

2012-07-06 22:30:57 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

And when unticking both the reply is:

2012-07-06 19:01:56 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

How logical is that??
ID: 43200 · Report as offensive
Profile Raistmer
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Aug 05
Posts: 2423
Credit: 15,878,738
RAC: 0
Russia
Message 43202 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 20:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 43197.  

Hopefully those estimates will fix themselves quickly.

Again, not the way we want to go on main!
While they will fix themselves too many tasks will be finished with -177 or so error because of too big estimations.
We need either better initial estimates or transfer already established estimates between updates.

News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer
ID: 43202 · Report as offensive
arkayn
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jan 07
Posts: 155
Credit: 194,400
RAC: 0
United States
Message 43203 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 21:09:16 UTC - in response to Message 43202.  

Hopefully those estimates will fix themselves quickly.

Again, not the way we want to go on main!
While they will fix themselves too many tasks will be finished with -177 or so error because of too big estimations.
We need either better initial estimates or transfer already established estimates between updates.


Too big of an estimate will not give the -177 error, that occurs when the task takes more than 10 times the original estimate.
ID: 43203 · Report as offensive
TRuEQ & TuVaLu
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 28 Jan 11
Posts: 619
Credit: 2,580,051
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 43207 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 21:57:38 UTC - in response to Message 43200.  

Well, something is wrong with 6.04 for ATI, for Nvidia I can get 6.04's without problems. I don't seem to be able to get any work for my HD4850 for OpenCL AP 6.04. It requests work for both CPU and GPU, but only get 6.01 for the CPU. I have even reset the project but still nothing for the GPU, even if Boinc asks for it

When Boinc asks for GPU work, the reply is:

2012-07-06 22:05:07 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

When I also tick Nvidia (which I shouldn't since I run ATI, the reply is simply:

2012-07-06 22:24:14 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6


Although at the same time the CPU 6.01, is freely handed out en masse.

Edit, added.

When unticking ATI the reply is stupidly that it exists work for ATI:

2012-07-06 22:30:57 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

And when unticking both the reply is:

2012-07-06 19:01:56 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

How logical is that??


I did an upgrade to BM 7.0.28 on my machine that ran 6.12.34 and then it got new work.

Read here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68641&sort=6

BM 7.0.28 almost works now when running several GPU projects with SETI
Running only SETI should work fine. Just change the min cache and max cache parameters to your opposite. if it was 0 and 2days cache before change it to 2 and 0.5 now and it'll be almost the same.

BM 7 is for real now and for the future it seems.
ID: 43207 · Report as offensive
Urs Echternacht
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 18 Jan 06
Posts: 1038
Credit: 18,734,730
RAC: 0
Germany
Message 43209 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 22:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 43197.  

Hopefully those estimates will fix themselves quickly.

My guess is that there is some bug in creating the initial estimates.

After reporting the first few results with ATI GPU AP 6.04 stock app these got validated and rewarded with :

0.53 cr
0.54 cr

So, host 58896 shows the credits-bug with stock and with anonymous platform. Will keep watching.


Secondary the CPU is running setiathome_6.97 and is credited normal.
_\|/_
U r s
ID: 43209 · Report as offensive
Celeron M processor 1.50GHz
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Mar 12
Posts: 1659
Credit: 12,789,696
RAC: 7,691
Sweden
Message 43212 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 22:07:47 UTC - in response to Message 43207.  

Well, something is wrong with 6.04 for ATI, for Nvidia I can get 6.04's without problems. I don't seem to be able to get any work for my HD4850 for OpenCL AP 6.04. It requests work for both CPU and GPU, but only get 6.01 for the CPU. I have even reset the project but still nothing for the GPU, even if Boinc asks for it

When Boinc asks for GPU work, the reply is:

2012-07-06 22:05:07 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 22:05:11 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

When I also tick Nvidia (which I shouldn't since I run ATI, the reply is simply:

2012-07-06 22:24:14 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:24:17 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6


Although at the same time the CPU 6.01, is freely handed out en masse.

Edit, added.

When unticking ATI the reply is stupidly that it exists work for ATI:

2012-07-06 22:30:57 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 22:31:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

And when unticking both the reply is:

2012-07-06 19:01:56 SETI@home Beta Test Requesting new tasks for GPU
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks sent
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: No tasks are available for AstroPulse v6
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
2012-07-06 19:02:00 SETI@home Beta Test Message from server: Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them

How logical is that??


I did an upgrade to BM 7.0.28 on my machine that ran 6.12.34 and then it got new work.

Read here: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68641&sort=6

BM 7.0.28 almost works now when running several GPU projects with SETI
Running only SETI should work fine. Just change the min cache and max cache parameters to your opposite. if it was 0 and 2days cache before change it to 2 and 0.5 now and it'll be almost the same.

BM 7 is for real now and for the future it seems.


AP 6.03 worked with Boinc 6, so I'm sure it's just a forgotten plan class somewhere. I will not upgrade to any V7 Boinc, until I'm forced to do so, with a threat of death or something like that.
ID: 43212 · Report as offensive
Michael
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 8 Feb 12
Posts: 1
Credit: 21,315
RAC: 0
China
Message 43218 - Posted: 7 Jul 2012, 6:12:54 UTC

I'm afraid that i still don't know how to do it.
how to use stock apps?
ID: 43218 · Report as offensive
TRuEQ & TuVaLu
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 28 Jan 11
Posts: 619
Credit: 2,580,051
RAC: 0
Sweden
Message 43220 - Posted: 7 Jul 2012, 7:59:30 UTC - in response to Message 43218.  

I'm afraid that i still don't know how to do it.
how to use stock apps?


Add the project to your Boinc Manager.
Check the needed boxes in SETI Beta preferences in the account page.
Use CPU, Use ATI, Use Nvidia
Mark the boxes Seti@Home V7 and Astropulse V6
ID: 43220 · Report as offensive
Celeron M processor 1.50GHz
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 10 Mar 12
Posts: 1659
Credit: 12,789,696
RAC: 7,691
Sweden
Message 43221 - Posted: 7 Jul 2012, 8:03:10 UTC - in response to Message 43218.  

I'm afraid that i still don't know how to do it.
how to use stock apps?


You are on stock already.
ID: 43221 · Report as offensive
1 · 2 · 3 · 4 . . . 5 · Next

Message boards : News : Please use stock apps in SETI@home Beta.


 
©2019 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.