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Message 43736 - Posted: 20 Sep 2012, 17:36:15 UTC

Few changes to science. This is mainly in preparation for v7 GPU testing. 6.98 (non-GPU) for MacOS should be appearing shortly.
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Message 43737 - Posted: 20 Sep 2012, 21:46:13 UTC - in response to Message 43736.  

Great news, Eric! Looking forward to the Win x64 release!
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Message 43738 - Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 7:09:27 UTC

Ok is OSX GPU also coming? I hope so. Will be watching closely.
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Message 43741 - Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 12:37:50 UTC - in response to Message 43737.  

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Great news, Eric! Looking forward to the Win x64 release!


I don't think SETI@home and -Beta will ever release a stock 64bit Windows application.

The current apps at S@h Beta.
The current apps at S@h.

Only 32bit Windows apps.
Linux have 32 and 64bit apps.

If you would like to have 64bit Windows apps you must use the Lunatics Installer (3rd party apps).


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Message 43746 - Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 20:03:17 UTC - in response to Message 43741.  

Funny, as I am only processing with a GPU on a PC with Win 7 Ultimate x64... But hey, I'm no rocket scientist after all...

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Message 43747 - Posted: 21 Sep 2012, 21:29:37 UTC - in response to Message 43746.  

It is not necessary for the projects to have a 64bit version to utilise 64bit systems.
The BM will just use the 32bit version if no 64bit is available.
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Message 43750 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 4:23:48 UTC - in response to Message 43747.  

As long as I can keep burning my GPU, that's fine with me. I was just hoping that since all apps are still using (some) CPU, I could make good use of its 64-bit capability.

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Message 43752 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 4:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 43750.  

cAnDYmanS@H-Beta wrote:
As long as I can keep burning my GPU, that's fine with me. I was just hoping that since all apps are still using (some) CPU, I could make good use of its 64-bit capability.

Cheers!


The stock 32bit applications work well on a 64bit operating system.


You know the Lunatics Installer which will install optimized project applications for SETI@home?

The optimized project applications which use the CPU instructions (SSE*/**, SSE2*/**, SSE3*, SSSE3*, SSE4.1* or AVX**) run ~ 50 % faster than the stock applications which BOINC download automatically from the project.

[* SETI@home Enhanced]
[** AstroPulse]

As far as I know, the speed difference between 32 and 64bit optimized applications is only ~ 5 % at SETI@home (more is not possible).

Also, you could calculate then on your AMD/ATI GPU AstroPulse and SETI@home Enhanced work units.

For more infos we could talk via private message or in the NC subforum at SETI@home. :-)


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Message 43767 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 15:56:11 UTC

I have an est runtime on my tasks of 18hours or something.
And they take like 6 hours to complete.

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=55958&offset=0&show_names=0&state=2&appid=


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Message 43773 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 18:09:45 UTC

It is just me here again.
Nothing of big importance.



Is this common??
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Message 43774 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 18:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 43773.  
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I've got a few of those on my E8500/GTX9800+ host, they are just lost Wu's getting to the head of the cue again, see this (locked) thread:

WU download error: couldn't get input files

I did try and download them manually, but the files are no longer where they were supposed to be:

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/247/05oc11al.5666.18100.6.14.106

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/12e/05oc11al.5666.18100.6.14.101

http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/download/247/05oc11al.5666.18100.6.14.100

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Message 43775 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 19:07:17 UTC

Maybe they are send with UDP instead of TCP.
That was intended to be a joke. I don't think they can be send with UDP.
Someone should take a look at where they are going or if they are there in the first place. Maybe they are just "tags"(ln -s).

My bad english, I haven't a clue of what it is called so I call them tags.
Tag could be the file name and not the actual file....or something like that.
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Message 43780 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 22:20:38 UTC

My BOINC couldn't download S@h v7 WUs ..

15 download errors ..

I set *no new tasks* in BOINC .. until someone report that the download go again well .. I don't want to destroy further the daily quota of new WUs ..


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Message 43781 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 23:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 43780.  

Just reported 53 download errored tasks, all resends, now down to a quota of 1 a day,

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Message 43782 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 0:50:49 UTC

Hi everyone!

I finally got a bit more time on my hands as well as constant online access, so I'm back:) If anybody needs my Atom/ION combo for testing anything please let me know. I kinda gave up on doing OpenCL on the ION but if someone wants me to (Raistmer?) I'd be more than happy to.

Anyway, I've had a few CPU tasks for days now but they refuse to start crunching by themselves. So I just now suspended my tasks from main so I could get these started. Can anybody guess why this might be happening, or does someone know a better way of getting around this so I don't have to suspend/resume tasks ie babysit Boinc?
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Message 43784 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 7:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 43781.  
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Just reported 53 download errored tasks, all resends, now down to a quota of 1 a day,

Claggy

Likewise (though not so many). In every case I've checked, it is indeed the individual data file which is non-downloadable - I'm away from home, and unable to check exactly what reason is given in the event log.

But they are all very old tasks - in some cases, first sent out for crunching last year (December 2011). I'm assuming the files were deleted from WU storage during one of the clear-outs since then.

Edit - managed to get remote access to the log:

24/09/2012 09:12:51 | SETI@home Beta Test | [sched_op] Reason: Unrecoverable error for task 05oc11al.25211.476.7.14.130_2 (WU download error: couldn't get input files:<file_xfer_error> <file_name>05oc11al.25211.476.7.14.130</file_name> <error_code>-224</error_code> <error_message>permanent HTTP error</error_message></file_xfer_error>)
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Message 43785 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 11:22:07 UTC - in response to Message 43784.  

Now i've managed to get my E8500/9800GTX+ host (as well as the i7-2600K) down to 1Wu/day with 43 download errors, all resends, only two wu's downloaded O.K,
It has enough Wu's on hand to drive the limit back up over the next couple of days.

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Message 43786 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 11:46:40 UTC - in response to Message 43752.  

Boy, I think I may have bitten more than I can chew here...

Seriously, I'm feeling way in over my head. So I will be happy just running my WUs and help with the project. I don't want to go installing third party code on any of my machines. Stock will have to do. After all, I think that this is what we are trying to achieve here: running whatever will the end user run at the main project. That's also why I don't think that altering the .xml files or tampering with other files from the WU is doing any good.

Thanks anyway! Cheers!
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Message 43787 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 14:34:48 UTC - in response to Message 43786.  
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Alex Storey wrote:
Hi everyone!

I finally got a bit more time on my hands as well as constant online access, so I'm back:) If anybody needs my Atom/ION combo for testing anything please let me know. I kinda gave up on doing OpenCL on the ION but if someone wants me to (Raistmer?) I'd be more than happy to.

Anyway, I've had a few CPU tasks for days now but they refuse to start crunching by themselves. So I just now suspended my tasks from main so I could get these started. Can anybody guess why this might be happening, or does someone know a better way of getting around this so I don't have to suspend/resume tasks ie babysit Boinc?

I think the primary test is SETI@home v7 now.
Since the CPU and GPU AstroPulse applications was released at SETI@home.

This could be because of a few reasons ..
Maybe the deadline of the other work units is shorter.
The project share of SETI@home Beta is too low in your BOINC.
And so on ..

cAnDYmanS@H-Beta wrote:
Boy, I think I may have bitten more than I can chew here...

Seriously, I'm feeling way in over my head. So I will be happy just running my WUs and help with the project. I don't want to go installing third party code on any of my machines. Stock will have to do. After all, I think that this is what we are trying to achieve here: running whatever will the end user run at the main project. That's also why I don't think that altering the .xml files or tampering with other files from the WU is doing any good.

Thanks anyway! Cheers!


Here at SETI@home Beta we test the stock SETI@home, but also the 3rd party applications of the Lunatics crew.

After successful test here at SETI@home Beta and release at SETI@home, BOINC will download the stock applications automatically then at SETI@home.
If you would like that the science will be calculated faster, you would need to install the Lunatics optimized applications manually with help of an installer software, which is very easy.

[EDIT: lunatics.kwsn.net]


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Message 43789 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 16:04:52 UTC - in response to Message 43787.  

Alex Storey wrote:

[snip]...I've had a few CPU tasks for days now but they refuse to start crunching by themselves. So I just now suspended my tasks from main so I could get these started. Can anybody guess why this might be happening, or does someone know a better way of getting around this so I don't have to suspend/resume tasks ie babysit Boinc?


This could be because of a few reasons ..
Maybe the deadline of the other work units is shorter.
The project share of SETI@home Beta is too low in your BOINC.
And so on ..


Thanx for the reply Sutaru. Only other project I crunch is Seti and it isn't running in high priority. Also the resource share is unchanged since the beginning of the Summer when I stopped doing Beta, so I don't think that's the problem either. However I set Beta to No New Tasks all Summer long... Should I have detached and reattached?
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