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Message 50079 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 18:12:39 UTC

(thinking out loud)

Well Boinc appears to think I can do a normal AR task in a couple of hours, and since I had a total of 6 tasks... that's 12 hours worth of work (in theory of course; realistically closer to 3 weeks as mentioned earlier).

So either Boinc really is respecting my cache setting of half a day or quite coincidently my cache size is the same size as the DA's idea of what everybody's cache size should be?

I'm inclined to go with the latter since Claggy knows Boinc inside-out.
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Message 50080 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 18:43:39 UTC - in response to Message 50079.  
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So either Boinc really is respecting my cache setting of half a day or quite coincidently my cache size is the same size as the DA's idea of what everybody's cache size should be?

I'm inclined to go with the latter since Claggy knows Boinc inside-out.

Looking at my cache on my on my HTC One S, which comprises of 5 Albert at home BRP tasks, 3 of those which are unstarted, the started ones have one hour and six hours left, I make my cache size as between 15 and 19 hours,
my actual default venue cache setting was 3+0 days, I've upped it to 5+0 days, that didn't make a difference, so I reckon the hardcoded value is something like 0.5+0.25 (But it could be as low as 0.25+0.25, that would get the same amount of tasks)

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Message 50081 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 19:26:56 UTC - in response to Message 50080.  

Actually, I managed to overthink this way too much and dragged you down with me:)

I just clicked on Home & School, the 2 venues I've never-ever touched, and the values are 0.1 and (up to) 0.5 days. So I guess those defaults are the cache settings for every Android device too?
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Message 50082 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 19:53:36 UTC

There doesn't seem to be any AstroPulses available. Is Beta already out of APs?
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Message 50083 - Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 4:01:19 UTC - in response to Message 50082.  

There doesn't seem to be any AstroPulses available. Is Beta already out of APs?

The last AP WU from the last channel of the 25jn13ac "tape" file was split 18 Mar 2014, 22:14:09 UTC. Eric will need to set up another file, but I suspect the "Search for Life Beyond the Solar System" conference will delay that.
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Message 50089 - Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 13:31:42 UTC - in response to Message 50076.  

Exiting is against the android design philosophy. ;)

Nice one.

Doesn't mean you can't have an app that exits, the Steam app can be exited.

On my phone, I touch the left soft key (the one that, from the phone's home screen, opens Settings and such) and it brings up 5 buttons at the bottom of the screen. One of them is "Exit BOINC". Works quite nicely, too.

You run Boinc 7.2.15. In the latest Boinc versions they actully stupidly enough removed the Exit option. I have the last version which still had the Exit option, V 7.3.0.

I caught it in time that the latest ones available from Google Play had the Exit option removed, which means that if it isn't brought back again, I will never upgrade. If there is a requirement to upgrade to run SETI in the future, I will stop running SETI on my android phone.

Is the Suspend option still there in the newest version? If so, that would be good enough for me.
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Message 50100 - Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 50057.  
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Exiting is against the android design philosophy. ;)

LoL, perhaps so.
But it's possible in NativeBOINC. And cause I use NativeBOINC for production processing I had to stop "too philosophical" stock BOINC in rude manner ;)
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Message 50103 - Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:13:18 UTC - in response to Message 50076.  



I caught it in time that the latest ones available from Google Play had the Exit option removed, which means that if it isn't brought back again, I will never upgrade. If there is a requirement to upgrade to run SETI in the future, I will stop running SETI on my android phone.


LoL, looks like pretty strong sanctions against BOINC devs :D :D :D
But not need to underestimate the strength of philosophy itself ;)
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Message 50105 - Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:16:00 UTC - in response to Message 50083.  

I suspect the "Search for Life Beyond the Solar System" conference will delay that.
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WoW, any additional info about that conference, please
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Message 50106 - Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 14:33:39 UTC - in response to Message 50105.  

I suspect the "Search for Life Beyond the Solar System" conference will delay that.
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WoW, any additional info about that conference, please

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Message 50546 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 20:45:09 UTC
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Message 50548 - Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 21:22:22 UTC
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And another interesting topic regarding Android on Windows PC:
http://www.socketeq.com/
Anyone tried already?
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Message 50576 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 17:50:17 UTC - in response to Message 50548.  
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And another interesting topic regarding Android on Windows PC:
http://www.socketeq.com/
Anyone tried already?


I installed it on netbook. Now have Android under Windows. Looks funny. Networking works so I will try to install some flavor of BOINC there and see what happens.
Hardware is C-60 APU of course, not the ARM CPU that's why I post in this thread.
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Message 50577 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:43:14 UTC

NativeBOINC launches there, but only as UI manager. Client part is native ARM app and fails to run. So it will be with any native ARM app I suppose.
Interesting to try stock BOINC for x86 Android if any and native x86 SETI MB app.
BTW, maybe worth to port MB to Java to run under Dalvik or other VM? Then new platforms will be supported automatically. Performance will suffer of course.
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Message 50578 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 23:18:08 UTC - in response to Message 50577.  

Interesting to try stock BOINC for x86 Android if any and native x86 SETI MB app.

The latest Stock Android Boinc 7.3.x is for any Android Arm/x86/mips processor, same installer for all.

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Message 50579 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 23:31:28 UTC - in response to Message 50577.  

Most of a Dalvik port exists in BOINCoid code. What's missing is the autocorrelation. If you can't find it online, I have a copy somewhere.
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Message 50596 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 15:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 50578.  
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Interesting to try stock BOINC for x86 Android if any and native x86 SETI MB app.

The latest Stock Android Boinc 7.3.x is for any Android Arm/x86/mips processor, same installer for all.

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And it failed to run :(
At all. Only initial logo was shown. NativeBOINC runs its manager intrface at least.
Looks like that Android flavor not too mature for now to play with it any further.

EDIT: next toy to play is Bluestack flavor... (if it happened to be free)
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Message 50597 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 15:30:58 UTC - in response to Message 50579.  

Most of a Dalvik port exists in BOINCoid code. What's missing is the autocorrelation. If you can't find it online, I have a copy somewhere.


BOINC itself uses native binaries so full BOINc port will be required too or we will be restricted with offline runs only.
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Message 50598 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 19:58:06 UTC - in response to Message 50596.  

Interesting to try stock BOINC for x86 Android if any and native x86 SETI MB app.

The latest Stock Android Boinc 7.3.x is for any Android Arm/x86/mips processor, same installer for all.

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And it failed to run :(
At all. Only initial logo was shown. NativeBOINC runs its manager intrface at least.
Looks like that Android flavor not too mature for now to play with it any further.

EDIT: next toy to play is Bluestack flavor... (if it happened to be free)

What version Boinc was that?

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Message 50599 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 20:26:25 UTC - in response to Message 50598.  
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7.3.7, it has 3 flavours inside apk. But no go with that Android (Windroy).
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