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Send message Joined: 12 Nov 10 Posts: 1149 Credit: 32,460,657 RAC: 1 ![]() |
2nd task also completed and validated http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24277297 Looks like you're onto a winner with the Intel GPU app - at least as far as my HD 530 goes. Fingers crossed it will work on Tut's iGPU too :-) In anticipation of you getting the new builds to Eric in time to deploy them over the weekend I will now revert to stock apps :-) |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Here is new set of binaries (r3486): https://cloud.mail.ru/public/A7yG/k8yoZrFvr Edit... Sorry, not a lot of sleep last night, I'll post result of those changes from last night. |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow WU true angle range is : 0.429536 https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta//result.php?resultid=24286344 WU true angle range is : 0.438143 https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta//result.php?resultid=24285761 WU true angle range is : 0.008604 https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta//result.php?resultid=24286174 |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Ok, looking at r3484 vs r3430.. running 3 work units at a time, blc guppi are running exactly the same amount of time non-guppi are about 60 to 120 sec longer. What does that mean? Guppi and nonguppi take exactly the same amount of time, where in r3430 a group of non guppi were faster by 2-3 minutes |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Ok, looking at r3484 vs r3430.. Seems to be some sleep going on there, even if you haven't used the sleep command. From: http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/result.php?resultid=24288206 Fftlength=8,pass=3:Tune: sum=4163(ms); min=3.54(ms); max=347.3(ms); mean=181(ms); s_mean=154.6; sleep=150(ms); delta=2190; N=23; usual Fftlength=8,pass=4:Tune: sum=2940.5(ms); min=3.7(ms); max=250.3(ms); mean=127.8(ms); s_mean=108.1; sleep=105(ms); delta=1936; N=23; usual Fftlength=8,pass=5:Tune: sum=2244.76(ms); min=3.986(ms); max=211.4(ms); mean=97.6(ms); s_mean=81.45; sleep=75(ms); delta=1681; N=23; usual Fftlength=16,pass=3:Tune: sum=2581.58(ms); min=1.572(ms); max=101.9(ms); mean=52.69(ms); s_mean=47.78; sleep=45(ms); delta=887; N=49; usual Fftlength=16,pass=4:Tune: sum=1758.8(ms); min=1.725(ms); max=71.97(ms); mean=37.42(ms); s_mean=34.64; sleep=30(ms); delta=776; N=47; usual Fftlength=16,pass=5:Tune: sum=1310.54(ms); min=1.853(ms); max= 53(ms); mean=27.88(ms); s_mean=25.32; sleep=15(ms); delta=648; N=47; usual Fftlength=32,pass=3:Tune: sum=1722.38(ms); min=0.7394(ms); max=35.08(ms); mean=17.76(ms); s_mean=16.43; sleep=15(ms); delta=404; N=97; usual Fftlength=32,pass=4:Tune: sum=1251.22(ms); min=0.7958(ms); max=40.11(ms); mean=15.07(ms); s_mean=14.91; sleep=15(ms); delta=572; N=83; usual Fftlength=32,pass=5:Tune: sum=912.687(ms); min=0.8235(ms); max= 20(ms); mean=14.49(ms); s_mean=11.43; sleep=0(ms); delta=500; N=63; usual Fftlength=64,pass=3:Tune: sum=1607.41(ms); min=0.3656(ms); max=30.56(ms); mean=14.88(ms); s_mean=9.149; sleep=0(ms); delta=317; N=108; usual Fftlength=64,pass=4:Tune: sum=1189.34(ms); min=10.27(ms); max=66.98(ms); mean=12.14(ms); s_mean=11.52; sleep=0(ms); delta=448; N=98; usual Fftlength=64,pass=5:Tune: sum=829.733(ms); min=7.473(ms); max=21.34(ms); mean=8.467(ms); s_mean=8.168; sleep=0(ms); delta=448; N=98; usual Fftlength=128,pass=3:Tune: sum=3589.43(ms); min=14.29(ms); max=27.34(ms); mean=18.22(ms); s_mean=18.06; sleep=15(ms); delta=1; N=197; usual Fftlength=256,pass=3:Tune: sum=3848.17(ms); min=8.162(ms); max=67.33(ms); mean=9.792(ms); s_mean=12.68; sleep=15(ms); delta=1; N=393; usual Fftlength=512,pass=3:Tune: sum=4172.92(ms); min=4.044(ms); max=133.4(ms); mean=5.302(ms); s_mean=6.138; sleep=0(ms); delta=1; N=787; usual Fftlength=1024,pass=3:Tune: sum=1836.83(ms); min=1.018(ms); max=1.439(ms); mean=1.168(ms); s_mean=1.144; sleep=0(ms); delta=1; N=1573; usual Fftlength=2048,pass=3:Tune: sum=1178.94(ms); min=0.336(ms); max=7.189(ms); mean=0.3746(ms); s_mean=0.3797; sleep=0(ms); delta=1; N=3147; usual To be honest, it seems as if higher versions than r3430, gets slower and slower, at least for high end GPU's. I'll stay with r3430 on main for now. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
hmm...I wonder if the -high_perf is causing that? I'll remove that and see if it changes |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
hmm...I wonder if the -high_perf is causing that? I don't think so. The answer is probably in this somewhat cryptic sentence that Raistmer wrote in a message above: "For all but iGPU only cosmetic change - no need to provide -use_sleep directly if some of options from sleep set defined." I haven't got a clue, what he means.... Does it mean that sleep is always on, or what??? And I think also that -high_perf, is automatic with the newer versions. I think Raistmer wrote something about that somewhere. Edit: This is becoming too complicated for this old man. I give up for now, and stay with what works for me (r3430). I can live with the autocorr bug check errors. They don't occur very often. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I understand, yes I only run r3430 on my Seti Main machines. Since this is a new build machine, I can add and subtract from it without too much effort. Raistmer, can you give us some idea if a sleep command is now on by default? What about high pref as well? |
Send message Joined: 30 Dec 13 Posts: 258 Credit: 12,340,341 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well, since I removed the -high_pref the non_guppi speed up.. kind of weird right? Looks like r3484 is now comparable to r3430. Tut, what are your times like? Are they the same as r3430? |
![]() Send message Joined: 11 Dec 14 Posts: 4 Credit: 2,985,448 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Task Postponed: Can't read CL file on opencl_atiapu_sah for version v8 8.15. No CL delivered on initial download? |
Send message Joined: 15 Jun 16 Posts: 45 Credit: 1,836,741 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Task Postponed: Can't read CL file on opencl_atiapu_sah for version v8 8.15. Here we go again. No CL delivered on initial download? It would appear so. Grant Darwin NT. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jun 16 Posts: 45 Credit: 1,836,741 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Ok, I took a chance and downloaded Raistmer new app and move the Multibeam_Kernals_r3480.cl to the beta folder and restarted Boinc. From Zalster the last time this happened. I'm running NVidia hardware, and getting the Multibeam_Kernals_r3480.cl file from Raistmer's site & putting it in the C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta got things running again last time around, although it looks like we're up to r_3486 now. If you use the ATi_APU file and get a copy of the (probably labeled) ATi_Kernals.cl file and put it in the project directory things might work for you. Or you could wait for someone that knows what they're talking about. :-) Grant Darwin NT. |
![]() Send message Joined: 11 Dec 14 Posts: 4 Credit: 2,985,448 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Task Postponed: Can't read CL file on opencl_atiapu_sah for version v8 8.15. Found it. https://cloud.mail.ru/public/A7yG/k8yoZrFvr Has the 3486 CL file. |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
OK, got 8.15 for both the 980 and the iGPU. I will run without any command line options for a while, to see how total stock settings looks. 3 on the 980, and 1 on the iGPU. So far it seems at least as if the memory leak on the iGPU is solved with 8.15. Thanks for the morning coffee :-) Edit: Unfortunately though, we seems to be in the beginning of another Arecibo VLAR storm, just at the start of a new version run. That's no good, it will really make it hard to compare anything. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Well, since I removed the -high_pref the non_guppi speed up.. kind of weird right? I haven't got a clue Zalster, since I now run with pure stock settings, apart from running 3 at a time. I'll keep it like that for a while. WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jun 16 Posts: 45 Credit: 1,836,741 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Edit: Unfortunately though, we seems to be in the beginning of another Arecibo VLAR storm, There goes the neighbourhood again. Grant Darwin NT. |
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1. Sleep should be disabled by default for all bt low-perf path 2. "Sleep" listed in tune statistics is just how much it would sleep in case sleep would be enabled. This doesn't mean real sleep. 3. -high_perf (from performance), not -high_pref. If you see difference with -high_pref on/off most probably you see natural deviation between tasks. 4. anyone else see issues with CL file for ATi? 5. @Zalster - tasks you posted are -v 6 ones. Please do few runs with -sleep_quantum 3 for midAR VLAr, VHAR (w/o -v 6) News about SETI opt app releases: https://twitter.com/Raistmer |
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![]() Send message Joined: 10 Mar 12 Posts: 1700 Credit: 13,216,373 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I'm only adding the -cpu_lock switches for now. No other tunings, until this Shi* storm of Arecibo VLARs, is totally over. So, for the GTX 980, the commandline for both opencl_nvidia_sah, and opencl_nvidia_SoG, will simply be: -cpu_lock -high_perf -instances_per_device 3 -total_GPU_instances_num 4 And for the iGPU, it will be: -cpu_lock -instances_per_device 1 -total_GPU_instances_num 4 Thanks for all Arecibo VLARs, but can we have something else soon? WARNING!! "THIS IS A SIGNATURE", of the "IT MAY CHANGE AT ANY MOMENT" type. It may, or may not be considered insulting, all depending upon HOW SENSITIVE THE VIEWER IS, to certain inputs to/from the nervous system. |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 10 Posts: 1149 Credit: 32,460,657 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I added my laptop to beta for the iGPU only. I noticed it restarts a lot on guppi but not on arecibo. Hi John It looks as though your guppi task ran with the v8.14 app - the guppi restarts are a "feature" of this version. v8.15 resolves the issue :-) |
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