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Message 61504 - Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 20:16:12 UTC - in response to Message 61502.  

Well, make cafe SETI at Beta a hip place to be and at least a few more will have to crunch to be there.
It would be very simple to attract more users. If the Host was also active on Main then add the SETI Beta points to the Host on Main. I don't understand why they are separate anyway. Keep the Beta point totals for Beta Stats, but use the Total SETI points for the Hosts on Main. It's all SETI anyway. I guarantee you there would be more Users at Beta if the points were counted on Main.
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Message 61505 - Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 20:34:10 UTC

How about someone posting a message that says
"We've loaded something new to test, Here's what it is, please go forth and Beta test it".
Did I miss that?
If I can help out by testing something, please let me know.
Available hardware and software is listed in my profile here.
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Message 61506 - Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 20:59:29 UTC

Just now there is nothing "new" to test, but what you've suggested has been done on a number of occasions when there is "something new", and has been met by general silence.
The truth is people aren't interested in testing new applications that may crash or do other unpredictable things, they just want "things to work". I can't blame them, I know how frustrating REAL testing is - you follow the script, you report everything, you do not deviate from the script and you do it repeatedly until you are certain that the application is behaving properly on that environment, then you do it again in another environment. And for the "credit hounds" this is perceived as a waste of their resources - and sometimes the same folks moan like crazy when things don't work as they would want.
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Message 61507 - Posted: 19 Nov 2017, 22:59:48 UTC

New Mac OpenCL Apps Posted at Crunchers Anonymous. All Apps are based on AKv8 r3710 and do Not have JSPF, except the new CPU App SSE41r3711, which the Benchmark says is 15% faster than the previous SSE41 App. The Intel App is the same as the last try, it is the Exact same App as the nVidia App with just a different name & number. Since I don't have an Intel iGPU, it is also completely untested on an Intel GPU, it does work on an nVidia GPU though. The new versions are;

* ATi5r3710&CPU-AVX
* ATi5r3710&CPU-AVX2
* nVidia_r3709&CPUr3711
* Intel_r3708&CPUr3711
* SSE41_CPUr3711

Here: http://www.arkayn.us/forum/index.php?topic=191.msg4368#msg4368
They work on My Mac...except the AVX apps
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Message 61508 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 0:35:02 UTC - in response to Message 61507.  

TBar, could we persuade you to develop the SSE4.1 app for Windows CPU's in some fashion?
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Message 61509 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 12:47:44 UTC - in response to Message 61508.  

Sorry, I've never considered compiling Apps in Windows, and don't plan on starting. Linux and Apple are pretty close, if you use the Terminal in Darwin. Windows would be too much different, I don't plan on going there.
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Message 61510 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 18:03:31 UTC - in response to Message 61509.  

OK, had to ask. Does anyone have the contact for Urs? I've only seen his name attributed to the Linux apps at Lunatics. I've never seen him active on the Seti boards. Is he still active?
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Message 61511 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 19:37:52 UTC

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Message 61512 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 22:18:03 UTC - in response to Message 61510.  

OK, had to ask. Does anyone have the contact for Urs? I've only seen his name attributed to the Linux apps at Lunatics. I've never seen him active on the Seti boards. Is he still active?

Hm, looking at your reg date it's strange you never saw him on active on message boards. This year he's quite silent indeed.
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Message 61513 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 22:20:57 UTC - in response to Message 61511.  
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Speaking of too many exits https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6153007753


Qute strange log. Host has ATi device. It got ATi plan class app. Still app reports about failure to ask NV runtime capabilities....

Did you use NVcard in that host before? Try to remove all NV driver remnants and reinstall AMD Catalyst.
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Message 61514 - Posted: 20 Nov 2017, 23:27:05 UTC - in response to Message 61512.  

Never paid that much attention to developer content until the last year. I missed out on any postings by him on the Seti boards. I don't have membership at Lunatics since it a closed roster.
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Message 61515 - Posted: 21 Nov 2017, 5:34:33 UTC - in response to Message 61513.  

Speaking of too many exits https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6153007753


Qute strange log. Host has ATi device. It got ATi plan class app. Still app reports about failure to ask NV runtime capabilities....

Did you use NVcard in that host before? Try to remove all NV driver remnants and reinstall AMD Catalyst.

Never had any other card in it, so I have no clue where any NV would have come from. All I see is that was a SoG where as this from the same box isn't https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=6144371968
But in any case this is that box on Beta for comparison https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=58294
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Message 61516 - Posted: 21 Nov 2017, 7:15:04 UTC - in response to Message 61515.  
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But in any case this is that box on Beta for comparison https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=58294

This one at least reports AMD OpenCL platform as it should.

But kernels fail with call failed (-54).
One who have CL.h nearly could translate this error in human readable message.

Suggestion is the same - clean reinstall of AMD drivers.
ADDITION: and do project reset (better - re-attach to be sure project folder was cleaned completely)

Regarding first log:
#if !(__APPLE__) && USE_OPENCL_NV
err=clGetDeviceInfo(id,CL_DEVICE_COMPUTE_CAPABILITY_MAJOR_NV,sizeof(retul),&retul,NULL);
OCL_LOG_ERR("Quering NV device abilities");
if(retul>1)FERMI=true;

It'sthe single place where such printing could occur in Windows.
And it's clearly NV path. ..
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Message 61518 - Posted: 21 Nov 2017, 10:22:08 UTC - in response to Message 61514.  
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Never paid that much attention to developer content until the last year. I missed out on any postings by him on the Seti boards. I don't have membership at Lunatics since it a closed roster.


He posted just a few days ago.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82202&postid=1901362
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Message 61519 - Posted: 21 Nov 2017, 11:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 61518.  

Never paid that much attention to developer content until the last year. I missed out on any postings by him on the Seti boards. I don't have membership at Lunatics since it a closed roster.


He posted just a few days ago.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82202&postid=1901362


Good catch! Nice to know Urs with us still.
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Message 61521 - Posted: 22 Nov 2017, 23:00:28 UTC - in response to Message 61518.  

Never paid that much attention to developer content until the last year. I missed out on any postings by him on the Seti boards. I don't have membership at Lunatics since it a closed roster.


He posted just a few days ago.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82202&postid=1901362

Agree, good catch. I shot him a PM.
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Message 61522 - Posted: 23 Nov 2017, 16:06:16 UTC

No tasks for Beta, not even any DIAG_KIC.
Oy vey ist mir...........
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Message 61530 - Posted: 27 Nov 2017, 15:39:34 UTC

Btw, this Fermi (CC=2.x) GPU is still only receiving CUDA 7.5 tasks, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7823473,
and for some reason has never been sent CUDA 4.2 tasks, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7823473

Also, how can I tell which of these tasks were ever listed as Inconclusive? https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=63959
As it is, the task could be listed as Inconclusive for minutes before the 3rd Host changes it to Valid.
If you reported late, it's possible a task would never be listed as Inconclusive as the previous 2 Hosts would immediately validate it.
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Message 61532 - Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 11:56:30 UTC - in response to Message 61530.  

Btw, this Fermi (CC=2.x) GPU is still only receiving CUDA 7.5 tasks, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7823473,
and for some reason has never been sent CUDA 4.2 tasks, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7823473

Also, how can I tell which of these tasks were ever listed as Inconclusive? https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/results.php?hostid=63959
As it is, the task could be listed as Inconclusive for minutes before the 3rd Host changes it to Valid.
If you reported late, it's possible a task would never be listed as Inconclusive as the previous 2 Hosts would immediately validate it.

Only by looking into WU record for replications number.More than 2 - had some issues, most probably - inconclusive.... but that's for main.
Here - no way it seems :(
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Message 61553 - Posted: 7 Dec 2017, 18:50:47 UTC

YES. finally work flows again.
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