mimo, Tom and Mark, please put the following app_config.xml in your Seti Beta project directories:

<app_config>
   <app_version>
       <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
       <plan_class>armv6l</plan_class>
       <cmdline>-verbose</cmdline>
   </app_version>
   <app_version>
       <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
       <plan_class>armv7l</plan_class>
       <cmdline>-verbose</cmdline>
   </app_version>
</app_config>

Claggy

The information provided by this is quite useful. Thanks Claggy. It shows that the two 8.01 apps currently on Beta are identical and both support neon if it is available. I compiled the armv6l and armv7l apps on a Pi1 and Pi2 respectively.

This is the output from my Pi1. It explains to me why both apps run at the same speed on a Pi2. Clever coding by whoever wrote the software. It looks like we only need one app to support Linux armhf devices.

<core_client_version>7.4.23</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_v8 8.00 Revision: 3304 g++ (Raspbian 4.9.2-10) 4.9.2
libboinc: BOINC 7.7.0

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  2.721674
features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp java tls 
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)

              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.007918 0.00000  test
            vfp_GetPowerSpectrum 0.002828 0.00000  test
           neon_GetPowerSpectrum not supported on CPU
            vfp_GetPowerSpectrum 0.002828 0.00000  choice

                     v_ChirpData 0.347058 0.00000  test
                   fpu_ChirpData 0.227311 0.94721  test
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.347020 0.00000  test
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.347020 0.00000  choice

                     v_Transpose 0.031991 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose2 0.031932 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose4 0.032902 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose8 0.068533 0.00000  test
                 fftwf_transpose 0.035408 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose2 0.085403 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose4 0.056317 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose8 0.103865 0.00000  test
                 v_vfpTranspose2 0.030517 0.00000  test
                 v_vfpTranspose2 0.030517 0.00000  choice

                 FPU opt folding 0.013012 0.00000  test
                 opt VFP folding 0.010628 0.17083  test
                opt NEON folding not supported on CPU
                 FPU opt folding 0.013012 0.00000  choice

                   Test duration    36.78 seconds


Flopcounter: 16155043434416.027344

Spike count:    1
Autocorr count: 1
Pulse count:    0
Triplet count:  2
Gaussian count: 0
00:43:18 (28421): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>

This is the output from the armv6l app on one of my Pi2s:

<core_client_version>7.4.23</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_v8 8.00 Revision: 3304 g++ (Raspbian 4.9.2-10) 4.9.2
libboinc: BOINC 7.7.0

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  2.722039
features: half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpv4 idiva idivt vfpd32 lpae evtstrm 
Optimal function choices:
--------------------------------------------------------
                            name   timing   error
--------------------------------------------------------
                v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)

              v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.003331 0.00000  test
            vfp_GetPowerSpectrum 0.001433 0.00000  test
           neon_GetPowerSpectrum 0.002506 0.00000  test
            vfp_GetPowerSpectrum 0.001433 0.00000  choice

                     v_ChirpData 0.185788 0.00000  test
                   fpu_ChirpData 0.173306 0.94721  test
               fpu_opt_ChirpData 0.208163 0.00000  test
                     v_ChirpData 0.185788 0.00000  choice

                     v_Transpose 0.164408 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose2 0.085524 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose4 0.043768 0.00000  test
                    v_Transpose8 0.082944 0.00000  test
                 fftwf_transpose 0.028893 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose2 0.072353 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose4 0.039296 0.00000  test
                  v_pfTranspose8 0.063141 0.00000  test
                 v_vfpTranspose2 0.085758 0.00000  test
                 fftwf_transpose 0.028893 0.00000  choice

                 FPU opt folding 0.005477 0.00000  test
                 opt VFP folding 0.004625 0.17082  test
                opt NEON folding 0.004049 0.00000  test
                opt NEON folding 0.004049 0.00000  choice

                   Test duration    32.95 seconds


Flopcounter: 16155100705679.298828

Spike count:    0
Autocorr count: 3
Pulse count:    0
Triplet count:  0
Gaussian count: 0
03:37:44 (15303): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Now we just need to figure out the ChirpData issue Claggy mentions above.

- Tom

Mark -

It looks like this functionality is already in place in the file:

https://setisvn.ssl.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/seti_boinc/client/analyzeFuncs.cpp

I'm not sure what the path is for where the file should be placed or what we need to do to activate it.

Is the wisdom file you generated short like the Einstein@Home one? If so can you post the text of it here?

- Tom

I looked through the code you linked. There is no mention of fftw_import_system_wisdom or any fftw_import for that matter, unless its in one of the includes.

From the fftw docs it says it looks in /etc/fftw/wisdom for the system wisdom.

Wisdom
This is for a Pi2 and would also probably work on a Parallella but NOT the Pi Zero, B or Pi B+. If my B+ was running Stretch I could generate one for it but its running Jessie which has an older version of fftw. The wisdom files have to be generated for the same version of fftw that is being used by the app.

(fftw-3.3.4 fftwf_wisdom #xca4daf64 #xc8f59ea6 #x586875c9 #x14018994
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_4 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x10f6adc9 #xd9dae2d1 #x6b1f472c #xd5849a55)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x44ad5c21 #x68343464 #xe4bbe970 #xe20f37be)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x4ada737a #x8f11eeb5 #xddb31944 #xd61e48ef)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xa4a64e81 #xdbcacf7d #x26e5d444 #x5f1dc192)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x17325693 #xc21d61d1 #xd753940f #xb29ba4c4)
  (fftwf_codelet_r2cf_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x9d75d2bf #x7f5f2a0c #x2dff2a21 #xef5d11be)
  (fftwf_codelet_q1_4 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xe28d329e #x222b98fb #xb137951b #xfa3b384f)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x8641f833 #xbd81619c #xb3bea8e0 #xab131e93)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x5e624a61 #xe63ce5bb #xa070200f #xfdf1ad24)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x9ee69f4a #x6a8d6e6c #xe8efd414 #x87e48fba)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x9131a445 #x23a1aeda #xbe072318 #x90a4b596)
  (fftwf_ct_genericbuf_register 5 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x9f5ed26c #xfde5d368 #xeabd39db #x48515ead)
  (fftwf_codelet_r2cf_64 0 #x11448 #x11448 #x0 #xdc9b9c98 #x75a724ba #xb1895b5c #x348ad7ea)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xe1efb4a4 #xb22b258c #xd3b9fdc4 #x6f541f4b)
  (fftwf_codelet_r2cf_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x5b844cea #x2a920b74 #xf82a54aa #xee1bc380)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_8 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x743f1051 #x067f64af #x63eb2004 #x1f4ba210)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x959a8189 #x531a3285 #xd2f4d4b2 #x8d515a33)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xde222597 #x77efec0d #x47c88d24 #x8d859a94)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd5f3c653 #xff9ae8b7 #x1117daf1 #xd32171d9)
  (fftwf_reodft010e_r2hc_register 0 #x11040 #x11048 #x0 #x3f656c48 #x724e1d4c #x4cae1a6c #x04328e7d)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xe064793f #x569bde2b #x56f73d35 #xfa150854)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x076ffd7d #x528848e9 #xc5ba9827 #x5f9b2db6)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x5f3eb4e1 #x0cb00c65 #x7b17191b #xf08cb99e)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd2d1dc80 #x2b7adad4 #x66b3f374 #x1c9b4580)
  (fftwf_codelet_hf_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x4b7606fc #x09d8ba9e #x61657d88 #xa7719fef)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x52c16d5c #x78672292 #xb152d1c2 #x86ccca81)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x1a1d813e #xfbac2c22 #x64337de8 #x46594bfd)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd2c09bd1 #x1f61b89d #xa82b12b6 #x5fca72cb)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x4018e315 #xc69945e6 #x036dd400 #xb02b8904)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x88c983e2 #x0f8bb65d #x9c0867d4 #x2500d51f)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xbf6b49c6 #xe8902713 #x1b11fd2a #x3af5fd5e)
  (fftwf_rdft_indirect_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x00b20725 #xfe2286c5 #x99047c24 #x07cb8d59)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_8 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x7a273437 #xbd621258 #x859a74d3 #x7639c6b7)
  (fftwf_ct_genericbuf_register 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x63a7f5a2 #x90744be9 #x1ae07cc5 #x62b30107)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_4 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xae8767a9 #x551ea32f #xf88f40c1 #x69374d6d)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xaaa33cd1 #xb263f7d8 #x0e91208a #x8e90cb5b)
  (fftwf_codelet_q1_8 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xed9be1c9 #x5e484970 #x0a34c047 #x9a62f6f2)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xe4ecbec8 #x5af68578 #x2126ccab #xeb986b5a)
  (fftwf_codelet_r2cfII_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x7ef04cb6 #x382f909b #x68cbfeb0 #xdf48f380)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_8 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd33a7356 #x0498cc6f #xb6e32544 #x959f85bc)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_8 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x3378193a #xf13a68c8 #x9762cbdf #x6d62549e)
  (fftwf_rdft_rank0_register 8 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x1160fed4 #x174482dc #x76c6c032 #x93691d13)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x2079edd0 #x68d66fd4 #x063f6ab3 #xbf3e1613)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x593773d9 #x2ae3a36a #x928e68af #xc8a37d68)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_8 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x53f03e12 #x1cdb8ef8 #x83e36ba7 #x8ebcf0a1)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xe10a4f89 #x79f5831f #x6ad85b28 #x06b20bf5)
  (fftwf_codelet_q1_4 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x0edc5f24 #x227c0867 #x7b6287cd #x88180ae1)
  (fftwf_codelet_r2cfII_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x4cac8088 #x8fcf5fdd #x58ff6170 #xa5681aee)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd4962c68 #x6d107867 #xd8ca3432 #xe26dbbfe)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x2c49251b #xba5d8222 #x5de75edb #xca987682)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x1ab0d001 #x877837d4 #x7816af06 #x038f268e)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x4ca75661 #x503b8204 #xf8f788d8 #xdfae867d)
  (fftwf_codelet_t1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd17e8d64 #x641ca94a #x54b5d93f #xd008b4d2)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xb970fcaa #x51ab2de2 #x99822498 #xc20f2f34)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_64 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x5277952d #x7015940c #xac797b56 #x823a4353)
  (fftwf_dft_vrank_geq1_register 1 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd32ea078 #xd94b02eb #x25b6801e #x455b660f)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_16 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #x15fef913 #x9630d295 #xdf912c30 #xacf10560)
  (fftwf_codelet_n1_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xd96df037 #x47380ef2 #x9db3e7f6 #xffbad50b)
  (fftwf_codelet_hf_32 0 #x11048 #x11048 #x0 #xc6ec8db1 #xc662d138 #x8fb51dbb #xeb99e443)
)

Added my B+ for app testing. Its running a "medium" overclock (900Mhz). Its Host 78198

Umm forget what I said above about the import wisdom. Stupid IE11 find command doesn't work on that page.

Had a closer look at the code and it does an import from string. It looks like it's looking in the default fftw folder for wisdom.sah, but if I am reading the code correctly will ignore it when it exceeds 512 bytes. I will have to check how big the one I posted above is, but I suspect it's more than 512 bytes.

[edit]
Yep it 5.4k...

/etc/fftw $ ls wisdom.sah -lh
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5.4K Feb 9 20:40 wisdom.sah

The Stock code from seti_boinc generates a fftw wisdom file in the wu's slot directory every time the app runs for the first time,
The optimised code from branches, generates a wisdom file named after the CPU found in the project directory,
on the first generation(s) it does a fast plan, on the 2nd start it does a more thorough planning,
after that no more generations are needed, saving that start up cost, it may be possible to port those changes.

Claggy

The Stock code from seti_boinc generates a fftw wisdom file in the wu's slot directory every time the app runs for the first time,
The optimised code from branches, generates a wisdom file named after the CPU found in the project directory,
on the first generation(s) it does a fast plan, on the 2nd start it does a more thorough planning,
after that no more generations are needed, saving that start up cost, it may be possible to port those changes.

Claggy

Or we could relax the 512 byte rule from stock which might be easier.

I had a look in one of the slot directories on the Pi2 without a wisdom file and there is indeed one in the slot directory. I don't know how long they take to generate but when I did the one manually it was a minute or two which isn't much of the run time (around 27 hours in my case).

if ((file_size(wisdom_path.c_str(),wisdom_size)==0) && (wisdom_size>512)) {
        if ((wisdom=boinc_fopen(wisdom_path.c_str(),"r"))) {

means open when size is more then 512 bytes, in my case more then 6kb so it is always loaded

Is wisdom_path.c_str() set to /etc/fftw/wisdom.sah I wonder.

Anyway lets assume its reading it when its greater than 512 bytes as the slot directories will be getting cleaned out at the end of each work unit. That leaves the other code suggestions from Claggy to try.

My Pi2 and Parallella's seem to be taking around 27 hours. The Pi B+ is looking like 60 hours (only 57% done after 36 hours).

Added my B+ for app testing. Its running a "medium" overclock (900Mhz). Its Host 78198

First wu came in at 228,006 seconds. Only 63.3 hours.

A couple of v8.02 tasks have shown up on one of my Pi2's. Any optimisations in this one? Should I abort the remaining v8.01 tasks?

A couple of v8.02 tasks have shown up on one of my Pi2's. Any optimisations in this one? Should I abort the remaining v8.01 tasks?

I got my Pi 2 to ask for work, it got sent a v8.01 (armv6l) task inspite of it not being listed on the applications page any longer,

Bug? Or does something need reloading?

Edit: A subsequent request got v8.02 work.

Claggy

My computers are transitioning over to the 8.02 apps as they finish their 8.01 work. I built 8.02 from the current source code (3378) with the fix above. It is not specific to armv6 or armv7 processors and I tested it on both. It will run on either and use neon if it is available. The app_config.xml files will need to be edited to provide verbose output from the 8.02 app.

Claggy can you help us with an updated app_config.xml file for verbose output?

- Tom

Claggy can you help us with an updated app_config.xml file for verbose output?

<app_config>
   <app_version>
       <app_name>setiathome_v8</app_name>
       <cmdline>-verbose</cmdline>
   </app_version>
</app_config>

Just take out the planclass line, and it'll apply to any setiathome_v8 app

Claggy

v8.02 is looking to be about the same run time as v8.01 for the few I've managed to complete so far - maybe slightly faster.

v8.01 average 96-97k seconds
v8.02 average 95k seconds (so far)

The Raspberry Pi foundation have just announced the availability of the Pi3 model B. It can run Pi/Pi2 apps but sports an 1.2Ghz ARM 64 bit CPU.(cortex A53) with built-in wifi and Bluetooth. No mention in the blog post about memory size. The are still running the current Raspbian image which is 32 bit but mention investigating 64 bit mode later. Oh and they are the same price as the Pi2 $35 US.

Ordered one five minutes ago, spent 45 minutes trying to get logged on to farnells site to do it.

Claggy

buying it too

No mention in the blog post about memory size.

RS Components in the UK had ~20,000 of these available for sale yesterday. Today, it's below 8,000 - selling like hot, er, pies?

Raspberry Pi 3 Model B data sheet

Memory 1GB LPDDR2

There was some comment on the blog about the video core IV only being able to address 1Gb so that's why they still only have 1Gb of memory.

I just bought my fourth Pi2 a fortnight ago. I also ordered the offical power supply and offical cases. Cases got back-ordered until April. One power supply dead on arrival, got a credit for it. Time to replace the Pi2's I guess. Might need to buy some more heatsinks though - I wonder if the SoC is the same size?

My Pi 3 is up and running here and at Einstein:

http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=78373

https://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=12213079

vcgencmd measure_temp initially gave 74 C when running four Einstein, with a Heatsink freshly fitted,
giving 78.8 C now when running three Seti and one Einstein a little later.

vcgencmd measure_temp gave the frequency as frequency(45)=1170122000 initially, now gives consistently frequency(45)=1200000000

Need a case and a fan i think.

Claggy

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