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Message 42856 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 18:06:55 UTC - in response to Message 42849.  

Let's overthrow Roe v. Wade...
Digable Planets - "La Femme Fetal" off of "Reachin' (A new refutation of time and space)"

It was 8:49 on a beautiful 9th day of July
There was not a cloud to speak of
so the orange sun hung lonely in the sky
I was laying prone in my cat-beat home
list'nin to fine nappy jackie and his jazzcat's horn,
sliding in a tape of Bird on Verve when suddenly rang my phone.
"Hello butterfly", a voice said,
"Slip on some duds comb out your 'fro
and slide on down to my pad
"The vibe here is very pleasant
and I truly request your presence -
A problem of great magnitude has arose
and as we speak it grows."
"Damn, what could it be?" I thought,
A juice I bought,
and rolled on down to her spot.
Seeing 'bros I know, slapping fives, I arrived,
and pressed G-5.
And there was Nikki
Lookin' some kinda sad with tears fallin from her eyes.
She sat me down,
And dug my frown, and began to run it down
"You remember my boyfriend sid that fly kid who I love
Well our love was often a verb, and spontaneity has brought a third.
But do to our youth an economic state we wish to terminate -
About this we don't feel great" (But baby, that's how it is)
"But the feds have dissed me -
They ignore and dismiss me.
And the pro-lifers harrass me outside the clinic
And call me a murderer" (Now that's hate)
"So needless to say we're in a mental state of debate"
"Hey beautiful bird", I said diggin' her somber mood
"The fascists are some heavy dudes.
They don't really give a damn about life -
They just don't want a woman to control her body
or have the right to choose.
But baby that ain't nuthin' -
They just want a male finger on the button,
because if you say war, they will send them to die by the score.
Aborting mission should be your volition,
but if Souter and Thomas have their way,
you'll be standing in line unable to get welfare."
(While they'll be out hunting and fishing)
"It has always been around, it will always have a niche
but they'll make it a privelege not a right
accessible only to the rich.
Pro-lifers need to dig themselves
because life don't stop after birth,
and to a child born to the unprepared...
It might even just get worse
The situation would surely change
if they were to find themselves in it.
Supporters of the h-bomb and fire bombing clinics...
What type of shit is that? Orwellian in fact:
If Roe v. Wade was overturned, would not the desire remain intact?
Leaving young girls to risk their healths
and doctors to botch and watch as they kill themselves?
I don't want to sound macabre,
but hey - Isn't it my job
to lay it on the masses and get them off their asses
to fight against these fascists?
So whatever you decide make that move with pride
Sid will be there and so will I.
Rhythms and sounds
spinning around.
Confrontations
across the nation:
Your block,
My block,
Dreadlocks,
What a shock!
Land of the free -
But not me.
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Message 42879 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 20:16:56 UTC - in response to Message 42856.  

First off two years of mandatory service for everybody without exception (unless you're laying down dying- I'm flexible here) is something that everybody's got to do.

This service can be working for the parks department in your town, caring for the infirm or elderly, tutoring kids, working on a state construction project (as an apprentice or a journeyman, manning a drawbridge - any damn thing.

The point is that while kids are in school they know this time is coming up and a structure set up can funnel people through a elective process so for example, a bi-lingual 18 year old can work in a structured environment helping people with english as a second language, or helping people in US citizenship classes.

Military service is an option as well and it seem evident to me that if a kid has a yen to fly a jetliner he's going to need to learn how. Technical fields also need apprentices. I wish I knew how to service a helicopter for $28 an hour.

Also this kind of obligatory service would put alot of young people in a place where for the first time they'd be working together with others and not be in an actual work-a-day competitive commercial environment- they would be learning to co-operate and learning to meet goals.

The reward of performance of civic duty would apply here as well-
I was dragged kicking into the army when I was a kid and didn't like it a bit but today I'm not sorry I didn't run to Canada. If I'd had a choice then about how to serve I believe it could have been a more positive experience and if everybody had to get into it- then surely people would find ways to make the best of it.

And I think that kind of participation would be good for the country by creating better citizens...cc
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Message 42880 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 20:30:16 UTC - in response to Message 42879.  

That sounds interesting but who has confidence in today's political right-wing-uber-alles environment? If it's "two years of helping" communities for all kids, a noble thought, I'm sure we would end up with Lockheed & Halliburton administering it. And as I've stated before, if it's "two years in the army" it would just be cannon-fodder for Iraqiranistan or "helpers" for The United Police States of America.

I think this says it all:


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Message 42881 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 20:35:03 UTC - in response to Message 42880.  

> I think this says it all:
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What makes you think Canada would have those states, even if they did vote Democratic? Illinois, Wisconsin, California . . . they all have way too many guns for Canadians (yes, California).
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Message 42883 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 20:44:01 UTC - in response to Message 42881.  
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> > I think this says it all:
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> What makes you think Canada would have those states, even if they did vote
> Democratic? Illinois, Wisconsin, California . . . they all have way too many
> guns for Canadians (yes, California).

We don't have any problem with guns, in the armed forces. I guess we
could accomodate some special status to those new provinces, perhaps
they could just give their guns to the Canadian army, they do need
some lol I still find it interresting that all states bordering Ontario
and Quebec are democrats.

It surely does have some influance over some states. The corridor from
Quebec city, Montreal, Ottawa, Windsor and Toronto counts for 80% of
total Canadian populations.
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Message 42901 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 22:01:03 UTC - in response to Message 42881.  

> What makes you think Canada would have those states, even if they did vote
> Democratic? Illinois, Wisconsin, California . . . they all have way too many
> guns for Canadians (yes, California).

HAHAHA, Canadians don't have problems with guns. Do you think they don't hunt there? Hell, just watch "Bowling for Columbine." Now they may not care for "unsporting" weapons such as hand-guns and assault rifles, which the psychotic NRA loves...
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Message 42902 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 22:03:55 UTC

First off two years of mandatory service for everybody without exception (unless you're laying down dying- I'm flexible here) is something that everybody's got to do.
Sounds like civil-service conscription. I like it! I'll take four years of the Peace Corp. over one year of National Guard reserve anyday! :-)

I think this says it all:
The US is always green and Canada is always red. Why are maps so insistent on that? I'm working on a similar thematic map...

The corridor from Quebec city, Montreal, Ottawa, Windsor and Toronto counts for 80% of
total Canadian populations.

I didn't know that.
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Message 42938 - Posted: 4 Nov 2004, 23:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 42902.  
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> The corridor from Quebec city, Montreal, Ottawa, Windsor and Toronto counts
> for 80% of total Canadian populations.

> I didn't know that.

Well I made a mistake ! It's 60%
I was not so sure after I have posted it but I have checked and it is 60%
It is still the great majority of Canadian living in the south east part of
continental Canada. Precisely where where the US democrat states are located.
There's got to be some relation somewhere.
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Message 42993 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 1:47:15 UTC - in response to Message 42938.  

So how come Calgary acts like it borders Texas? ;-)

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Message 43032 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 3:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 42993.  

Must be all that hockey and beer. Or maybe just the beer.
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Message 43063 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 4:58:33 UTC

Steers and queers?
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Message 43074 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 5:28:16 UTC - in response to Message 42714.  

> Born and raised in Hawai‘i, Obama (Oh-bah'-ma) gave the keynote address at the
> Democratic convention. He was running for his first national office, Senator
> from Illinois, against 7 of 9's (Jerry Ryan's) former husband, until a
> personal scandal caused the incumbent to bow out. The Republicans put in a
> replacement candidate, but Obama won ~75%/25% (not sure of the final numbers).
Oh THAT controversy! Who in their right mind would be married to Jeri Ryan and want to SWAP??
The only part of the conventions I watched was Governor Ah-nold at the RNC.
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Message 43076 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 5:32:47 UTC - in response to Message 42881.  

> What makes you think Canada would have those states, even if they did vote
> Democratic? Illinois, Wisconsin, California . . . they all have way too many
> guns for Canadians (yes, California).
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Woohoo! I'm in the USC!
Remember the line from Robocop, "Guns, guns, guns!"
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Message 43094 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 6:22:07 UTC - in response to Message 42993.  

> So how come Calgary acts like it borders Texas? ;-)
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Good question. General wild west habits I guess.
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Message 43178 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 12:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 42840.  

> And be sure that they're all straight, we wouldn't want any gays dying for
> their country.

Lest you forget the general views of this nation: Contributions (to the well-being of America) are not contributions unless they come from white, straight, god-fearing middle-class Protestants.

Sad, isn't it...

Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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Message 43179 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 12:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 42849.  

> "Chickhawks." Are you refering to the Catholic clergy; the ones who won't
> give communion to Catholic pols for supporting a woman's biological rights?

No, he's referring to the Priests who are secretly members of NAMBLA, while extolling the virtues of abstinence...


> Send in the altar boys! Just be sure that they pull their knickers up when the
> pile out of the rectory.

They'd just be exchanging one "uniform" for another...


Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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Message 43180 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 12:38:01 UTC - in response to Message 42880.  

> I think this says it all:
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BTW: Lawyers called on behalf of their client, Jesus. They want you to remove his name from the map above, as he neither supported, nor advocated the use of his name or likeness in the aforementioned campaign.

Alternatives you can use: "Backward Redneck-land" (they're not presently represented), "Gun-slinging Cowboy Imperialist Land", or "The Fundie States of America"

Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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Message 43181 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 12:42:14 UTC

we can talk or write or think what we want
but the only thing that i have learn in my life is
AMERIKA WILL STAY !
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Message 43182 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 12:42:44 UTC - in response to Message 42901.  

> HAHAHA, Canadians don't have problems with guns. Do you think they don't hunt
> there?

Yes, but only because Moose are armed...some quite heavily.

> Hell, just watch "Bowling for Columbine." Now they may not care for
> "unsporting" weapons such as hand-guns and assault rifles, which the psychotic
> NRA loves...

Well, you lost my respect.

The only "Bowl" in that movie worth anything was the one he was smoking, and he sold it to finance the production.

Michael Moore is an entertainer, much like Jane Fonda or Rush Limbaugh. Any attention paid to what ANY of them say ought to be filtered through solid black glasses whose lenses are at least a foot thick.

Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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Message 43184 - Posted: 5 Nov 2004, 12:46:05 UTC - in response to Message 43074.  

> Oh THAT controversy! Who in their right mind would be married to Jeri Ryan
> and want to SWAP??

Because seven of nine wouldn't do six of nine...she hadn't assimilated the process yet.

> The only part of the conventions I watched was Governor Ah-nold at the RNC.

Ah, the mix of testosterone, camp and humor? Isn't that kinda like Dennis Miller combining rap lyrics and Shakespeare?

Stewie: So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?

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