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Message 41453 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 14:10:00 UTC - in response to Message 41452.  
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> > > The NAACP could lose its tax-exempt status or face a fine if the
> IRS
> > decides
> > > it engaged in political activity.
> > >
> > > Under the law, nonprofit groups cannot endorse candidates,
> contribute
> > money or
> > > raise funds for them or "distribute statements for or against a
> > particular
> > > candidate."
> > >
> > > Even encouraging people to vote for a particular candidate "on the
> basis
> > of
> > > nonpartisan criteria" violates tax laws. The federal tax code also
> says
> > that
> > > organization leaders cannot make "partisan comments" at official
> events.
> > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Is this the same law that allows evangelical groups who believe GWB
> has
> > > regular visitations with god in the oval office tax exempt status?
> > > Many god groups dont seem to be at all inhibited about vocally
> endorsing
> > GWB
> > > as he's claimed to have inside info regarding the supreme will.
> > >
> > > Is organized religion permitted to do that?
> > >
> >
In case you hadn't noticed the so-called Christian Right wing has been
urging
all their bigoted followers to vote for Bush from the pulpits.
The Catholic Church has told all Catholics it is a sin to vote for any
politican who believes that a woman has a choice. Blah blah blah

So all these churches should lose their tax exempted status as well. But no, the Bush government has only gone after the NAACP = they're Black and Democratics. Yet Bush shouts from the roof tops about democracy in Iraq when his party and government doesn't really have a clue what it means.
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Message 41455 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 14:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 41452.  


> The NAACP could lose its tax-exempt status or face a fine if the IRS decides
> it engaged in political activity

Evidently, the above statement is true.
Shouldn't this also apply to religious groups as well. Why is it OK for god fanatics to enjoy tax exempt status while openly favoring or condemning a political figure?

Why does the US support god fanatics at home and condemn them elsewhere?
They seem to be equally dangerous- One driving car-bombs into crowds while the other poisoning kids' minds with fear and guilt.

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Message 41471 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 15:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 41453.  

> So all these churches should lose their tax exempted status as well. But no,
> the Bush government has only gone after the NAACP = they're Black and
> Democratics. Yet Bush shouts from the roof tops about democracy in Iraq when
> his party and government doesn't really have a clue what it means.

I can only agree with that It is so true.


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Message 41473 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 15:47:00 UTC
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Here is a chart that explains why some islamic became extremist and
why they hate Israel and the USA so much. There will never be peace
in that region for as long as this chart doesn't become flat on
both side. It's just as simple as that. The "military" war on
terror will never succeed.




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Message 41507 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 18:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 41450.  
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You seem to have forgotten why. Just a short aside, the Palestinians have been the leading poster people for terrorism for the past 40+ years. If the Palestinians had done to your country what they have done to Israel, you'd want to crush them too. And like all the other Arab countries, they haven't got a clue what democracy means. All their issues have to end at the end of a sword or rope. All they have to do is recognize Israel and leave the Israeli's alone; if they did the country could implode because of their own internal disagreements, mainly religious. The Arabs can never win. If they were in a position to crush Israel, the Israeli's have a doomsday plan; that is to unleash all their nuclear devices against the Arab world in one big act of mutual suicide. Where the Kabaa is in Mecca will be replaced with a glass lined hole about 30 meters deep and 200 meters in diameter. It'll make Hiroshima look like a tea party.
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Message 41511 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 18:31:13 UTC - in response to Message 41430.  

I find it funny to see that now Bush & the Repukes are screeching about Bin Laden, since he has a new tape out taunting Dumbya for reading "My Pet Goat" while thousands of people were about to get killed on 9/11. Six months after 9/11 Bush was saying "I'm not really concerned about Bin Laden" and "Bin Laden is marginalized." I wonder if his family still sends the Bin Laden family Christmas cards every year, or if Bush is finally "mad enough" to take him off the list (as he presumably did to Ken Lay ;-)

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Message 41524 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 19:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 41371.  
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> I have learned not to believe a word from
> the pentagon, especialy when the news is on FOX...
So by your own reasoning if the report came from CNN you'd believe it? Or just the opposite, if FOX said Al Qaeda took the explosives you wouldnt believe it?

> He wants Bush. That would keep the hate factor rising in the Muslim world
> against the United States. Ergo, more and easier recruiting of terrorists and
> idiots willing to commit self sacrifice for some twisted idiology.
Does he want Bush or will he LIE and say whatever it takes to get Bush out of office? The idiology of terrorists was there before Bush and will still be there after Bush.

> I also think he wants Bush. He already said in the past that bush was the
> best president to help there cause.
Ever hear of reverse psychology? Why would anyone TRUST the worlds biggest terrorist to be HONEST & TRUTHFUL?

> Here is a chart that explains why some islamic became extremist and
> why they hate Israel and the USA so much. There will never be peace
> in that region for as long as this chart doesn't become flat on
> both side. It's just as simple as that. The "military" war on
> terror will never succeed.
So the US should give aid to suicide bombers? That comparison chart used to also apply between India and Pakistan. Now the US is giving millions to Pakistan, which pisses off India, but at least they are capturing members of Al-Queda and Taliban. Harbor terrorists and face the consequences or turn them over and get million$. Many of their people didnt like the decision but now they are on equal footing with India.

> This is probably the best thing I can say about Bush, so I hope you're reading
> this, Tom: We didn't go nuclear. I wasn't on the planet in '62 so I
> can't compare this to the missile crisis, but I assure you that on 9/11, the
> bomb was going through my mind. Between Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Lybia,
> Israel, Pakistan, India...
I think NUKE 'EM went thru the minds of most Americans. Not a lot, just one well placed MX to turn BL's mountain into a molehill.
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Message 41525 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 19:39:02 UTC
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That scenario is a fact. Ask any Israeli what the next step is after the code word "Tavo l'har canaon" (Come to Mount Canaan) is broadcast over the national media. Fight like the devil, embrace your friends and family, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. Israel has and assortment of fisson devices and about 200 fusion devices to assure MAD. They just keep it in the neighborhood.

NeoAmsterdam - it is "NO" joke but a fact of life for Israeli's thanks to their neighbors.

It also makes good blackmail material since the Arab oil fields are also primary targets. The destruction of Israel will also destroy the bulk of the worlds oil supply and therefore the worlds economy. So if I were you, I wouldn't want to push them too far into a corner.
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Message 41529 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 19:55:06 UTC


Iraqi youths celebrated yesterday near a burning Turkish truck. Insurgents opened fire on the truck while it was carrying bottled water in the northern city of Mosul. The driver was killed, according to Iraqi police. I guess they prefer tap or well water?

In follow-up news stories:
Missing explosives a campaign issue

Political activity of 60 groups is checked; tax-exempt status on line

Experts: Leader of al-Qaeda doesn't care who is elected
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Message 41538 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 20:28:39 UTC

CIA evidence authentification guidelines

1) Put tape in recorder. Check tape for proper orientation first.
(Consult your recorders "users manual booklet", if anything stirs up.
Don't use violent force.)

2) Call George Bush sr. and ask him, where the hell the TV set
wireless remote control has gone.

3) Turn on the TV set and press 'play'. If this doesn't work, use
some violent force. Or replace your remote controls batteries, if
necessary.

4) Look at the screen. Look firmly. Look frightened and shocked.
(Hide your faces and darken the room. Osama might see and identify
you.)

5) If there's picture and sound, the tape should be genuine and
authentic.
If there's no picture and/or no sound, use a VHS rack instead of an
old Betamax, this may help.

6) Give it away to a well known, integer source of investigative
journalism at its best - like Rush Limbaugh or O'Reilly. They will
knew very well, what's the next step to do. Don't forget to ask them,
what you should think about it at the press meeting afterwards.

7) Call George Bush sr. again. Tell to him, that "the job" is done.
Don't forget not to whisper like James Bond, that looks more
professional and less conspirative, when phoning the boss.
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Message 41561 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 21:56:18 UTC - in response to Message 41525.  
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@Dogbytes:
"Tavo l'har canaon"
Ani zojer, javer. Ani raq roxe she ani lo hie jai matai anu nojnesim brojes cazot.

[EDIT: Promised to remove this section after 6hrs., but just got around to doing so now.]

It also makes good blackmail material since the Arab oil fields are also primary targets. The destruction of Israel will also destroy the bulk of the worlds oil supply and therefore the worlds economy.

The planet will be dead - Oil won't even be worth a dime a dozen barrels at that point.

@Tom
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Blame Guido! I've been good! Blame Guido!
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Message 41564 - Posted: 30 Oct 2004, 22:05:48 UTC - in response to Message 41561.  
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> Neo -
> Why is it that everyone's brain immediately discards the "Amsterdam" in my
> handle??? Just so there's no confusion I LOVE THE MATRIX!
> "Neo-" is a prefix used to denote singularity - "The One" is appropriate. "Keano Reeves"
> - My favorite actor. What could possibly be the best movie????

EDIT: I said contribution and got an explanation. Still waiting...

> It also makes good blackmail material
Yes. Yes it does. :)

> Blame Guido! I've been good! Blame Guido!
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Message 41605 - Posted: 31 Oct 2004, 2:00:51 UTC

It's pretty funny (and more hypocritical than usual) that the IRS would look into the NAACP tax-exempt status, meanwhile the Catholic and holy-roller-evangelist churches have been touting the right-wing Repuke line for ages and never get called on the carpet. Actually I think Jerry Falwell's orgs were told not to do it but they don't care. I guess it helps that they have guys on the "inside" like Ashcroft & Rove.
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Message 41687 - Posted: 31 Oct 2004, 13:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 41645.  

> Isn't it strange ?

Well Bin Laden is an old friend of the Repubs from way back, so he's conveniently available when they need him for some quick fear & hysteria. Unlike Spain, which saw the Madrid bombings as a right-wing failure in the war on terror, the US runs in child-like fear to the Repubs all the time. Een though they have a track record of failure as well. I mean, just recently Cherie Blair & even QE2 has bashed Bush on his failures and myopic & hurtful policies.
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Message 41753 - Posted: 31 Oct 2004, 18:55:05 UTC - in response to Message 41564.  

<B>Well it WAS 6 hours. HA! My clock is broken, but it can be fixed for a contribution elsewhere.[/b]

I fixed it! OK?! .o0(Jeez!)

I'll start looking as soon as I can take this friggin costume and hangover off...
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Message 41764 - Posted: 31 Oct 2004, 20:14:35 UTC

From [2]
> > > By the way, congrats on your 1000th post!
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> > Marc, you talk to much. :p
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> 1000 !!! My god. I need to get a life.
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Marc, I talk to much too. :P
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