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daysteppr ![]() Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 ![]() ![]() |
Anyways, as the title says, Will Seti kill an SSD etc? im looking to upgrade my HD with an SSD and Im looking for any pros and cons from the experts here if possible regarding said upgrade. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Daysteppr |
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Doubtful that Seti will harm your SSD. I use both and really no difference other than start up speed. ![]() ![]() |
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A SSD will outlast any hard drive from my experience. Mechanical things wear out. Modern SSD's have dozens of years of typical life. SSD endurance is commonly described in terms of Drive Writes Per Day (DWPD) for a certain warranty period (typically 3 or 5 years). In other words, if a 1TB SSD is specified for 1 DWPD, it can withstand 1TB of data written to it every day for the warranty period. Consumer SSD normally have a 3-5 year warranty. Prosumer SSD have a 5-10 year warranty. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13913 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Doubtful that Seti will harm your SSD. I use both and really no difference other than start up speed. Don't forget system responsiveness. Even if you've got oodles of RAM, a system with an SSD is much more responsive when starting and closing programmes, doing updates etc. Even with heavy write use, about the only way to send an SSD to an early grave is if it's extremely low on free space (ie 5% or less). Grant Darwin NT |
daysteppr ![]() Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks all. Pretty much the answer I was looking for. Sincerely, Daysteppr |
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On my laptops two of which have SSDs, the only warnings I get are when I do a defrag. It is important to have a decent amount of free space though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XZNr7mS0iw&t=4s HTH and Merry Christmas George |
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I didn't think SSD's required defraging and if true that just puts unnecessary wear on them. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13913 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
On my laptops two of which have SSDs, the only warnings I get are when I do a defrag. Defragging SSDs is unnecessary, and is a great way to wear them out before their time. On an OS that recognises flash based storage, the Disk Tools option for Defragging changes to Optimisation, and it basically runs the Trim command on the drive (it does what's known as garbage collection, which is generally done in the background). Check and Enable or Disable SSD TRIM Support in Windows 7 / Windows 8.1 Grant Darwin NT |
Ken W2BDP ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Feb 01 Posts: 66 Credit: 662,126 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Defrag on Windows 10 does a trim. Defraggler also does a trim. Most of your commercial defrag programs probably do a trim after all these years. KenW |
KWSN Sir Clark Send message Joined: 17 Aug 02 Posts: 139 Credit: 1,002,493 RAC: 8 ![]() |
Defrag on Windows 10 does a trim. Defraggler also does a trim. Most of your commercial defrag programs probably do a trim after all these years. That makes it sound like Trim is a command which needs to be triggered every so often. It's not. It's a feature that is constantly used when switched on which it should be by default. https://www.digitalcitizen.life/simple-questions-what-trim-ssds-why-it-useful And as previously mentioned, you shouldn't be using a defrag program on an SSD |
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Defrag on Windows 10 does a trim. Defraggler also does a trim. Most of your commercial defrag programs probably do a trim after all these years. Greetings, I have a major problem with the command mentioned in that article and another article I googled just to verify the first one. If mine is set to 0 (zero) this is what I see: NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Disabled) If mine is set to 1 (one) this is what I see: NTFS DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Enabled) If 0 (zero) is enabled, why does it say "Disabled" and if 1 (one) is disabled why does it say "Enabled"? I really hope there's a logical explanation for this. Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Bruce Send message Joined: 15 Mar 02 Posts: 128 Credit: 124,955,234 RAC: 11 ![]() |
Siran, Try this web site for Windows 10. Check Trim in Win10 Those others deal with Win 7 & 8.1. The command is the same, but might give slightly different results in Win 10. Bruce |
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Siran, Hi Bruce, Yeah, ok so they showed exactly what I see when I do the query. Then, I have to ask who's brilliant idea was it to say that Trim is disabled when it is enabled, and enabled when it is disabled? When I first saw it I thought the first web article was wrong so I googled it and found another web article that said the same thing. I went to a third and then the one you linked and they say the same thing. There is no logic in what I see when I do the query, none. In my mind I should see (Enabled) after the 0 and (Disabled) after the 1. Is that a Micro$oft thing? If so, that explains everything. I don't remember anything about this from Samsung when I got my M.2 and 1TB SSD and their Magician software. Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13913 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Then, I have to ask who's brilliant idea was it to say that Trim is disabled when it is enabled, and enabled when it is disabled? A programmer. Of course you have to understand what question is actually being asked- The command is asking about the status of DisableDeleteNotify, not Trim. The status of DisableDeleteNotify is the opposite of Trim. If it's active (1), Trim isn't. If it's isn't active (0), Trim is. DisableDeleteNotify. Disables (1) or enables (0) delete notifications. Delete notification (also known as trim or unmap) is a feature that will notify the underlying storage device of clusters that have been freed due to a file delete operation. Grant Darwin NT |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7381 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Then, I have to ask who's brilliant idea was it to say that Trim is disabled when it is enabled, and enabled when it is disabled? Hi Grant, First... Merry Christmas! :) Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now that makes sense. I suppose there's actually no other way to get the status of Trim other than querying DisbleDeleteNotify. They should just drop the (Disable) and (Enable) from the query results. That would get rid of the confusion. I saw information that Micro$oft Windows 10 actually does do a defrag on SSDs. If defragging them shortens the life of a SSD, why would Micro$oft do such a thing? Yeah, ok, that's like asking why Micro$oft puts out a crappy OS. lol ;) Micro$oft thinks they're the GOD of the computer world. lol ;) Anyway, thanks again and have a great day Grant! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
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