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Message 2035505 - Posted: 3 Mar 2020, 12:47:41 UTC
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By the last statistics there will by about 200 000 SETI orphan hosts.

Where they will go?

Even a fraction of such large number of hosts will hit hard any project they choose to stay.

There will be some interesting times in the following months for the others projects admins.

In my case i still not decided what to do or what will be my new step house.
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Message 2035509 - Posted: 3 Mar 2020, 12:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 2035505.  

I've been wondering what effect this news will have on the rest of the scientific community?

Will they ...
... see lots of skilled users with powerful computers, ready to take on a new area of science?
... mis-understand and read it (wrongly) as the beginning of the end of the BOINC platform as a whole?
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Message 2035584 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 8:11:07 UTC - in response to Message 2035505.  

By the last statistics there will by about 200 000 SETI orphan hosts.

Where they will go?

Perhaps we should all set up a new team called Seti Orphans, and go invade another project.. ? :-)
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Message 2035595 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 9:19:28 UTC - in response to Message 2035509.  

Some will see it as the end of BOINC, others will see an increase in their headcount.
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Message 2035669 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 13:24:53 UTC - in response to Message 2035595.  

Some will see it as the end of BOINC, others will see an increase in their headcount.


I sincerely hope it is never an end to BOINC. Even if I can't have my preferred project.

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Message 2035673 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 13:27:13 UTC

I'll go to a project that has an open source code for Nvidia GPUS and an off-line test suite similar to Seti@home.
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Message 2035731 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:33:23 UTC - in response to Message 2035673.  

Does Serendip have a bionic project?

also i presume that there is not a way to help analyze the Nebula data?
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Message 2035733 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:35:42 UTC

Open one "SETI orphans" Café or Pub in every country where we have SETI@home participants :-)
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Message 2035735 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 2035505.  

Mine are now doing Androids, Universe and Einstein. But that's mostly because they weren't getting Seti tasks anyway. :)
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Message 2035736 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:40:46 UTC

I've been looking at Einstein as a new home. They were friendly enough to open a spot in their boards to let us chat on Tuesdays, so that earns them bonus points in my book. How is their uptime? do they have a weekly outage? do I need to configure my system differently?
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Message 2035742 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:49:25 UTC - in response to Message 2035673.  
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I'll go to a project that has an open source code for Nvidia GPUS and an off-line test suite similar to Seti@home.

Hey! I'm sure your optimizations will be greatly welcomed!!

To follow my own interests: Go Einstein@Home? ;-)


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Message 2035749 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:53:36 UTC - in response to Message 2035673.  

I'll go to a project that has an open source code for Nvidia GPUS and an off-line test suite similar to Seti@home.


please let us know which one you find!
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Message 2035750 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 16:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 2035731.  
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Does Serendip have a bionic project?

also i presume that there is not a way to help analyze the Nebula data?

I believe all the Serendip processing takes place in real-time on dedicated hardware.

Independently to that, s@h processes the same source data more slowly but to much deeper sensitivity.


For Nebula, you can take a look at:

Instructions for evaluating Nebula output


Perhaps this is where some of the Nebula project pages need updating to most usefully direct any/all available help?...

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Message 2035755 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 17:07:35 UTC - in response to Message 2035736.  

I've been looking at Einstein as a new home. They were friendly enough to open a spot in their boards to let us chat on Tuesdays, so that earns them bonus points in my book. How is their uptime? do they have a weekly outage? do I need to configure my system differently?

E@H is "always" up
E@H does not have weekly outages just occasional system patches
Your system should function fine but you will probably want to look at their preferences in you account page.
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Message 2035805 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 20:05:12 UTC - in response to Message 2035755.  
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E@H does not have weekly outages

So where is the fun? No moon to hollow, hair to burn, virgin to sacrifice, goes to the pub...
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Message 2035809 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 20:17:00 UTC

Personally I was just pondering what I was going to do for this years WOW event. Whether in fact I would enter at all as it struck me last year as not very environmentally friendly.

Seems the decision has been taken out of my hands. I will crunch on my 4 main machines until there is nothing left to crunch, then I will be left with 5 750 Ti's, 2 1050's, 2 1060, and a 970 with nothing to do.

Whether I will crunch for another project remains to be seen, SETI was really the only one that ever interested me.
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Message 2035814 - Posted: 4 Mar 2020, 20:53:42 UTC - in response to Message 2035809.  

There's been some talk to resurrect one of the Einstein@home challenges to take place in the same period that WOW used to occupy.

I would hope that most Seti volunteers believe in the concept of distributed computing and will continue to work for other projects as citizen scientists.

Who knows you may discover the next miracle protein, planet-killer asteroid or what the heck is dark matter and dark energy. I have a credit citation for a paper at GPUGrid finally.
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Message 2035888 - Posted: 5 Mar 2020, 2:02:44 UTC - in response to Message 2035814.  

I would hope that most Seti volunteers believe in the concept of distributed computing and will continue to work for other projects as citizen scientists.
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I signed up for MilkyWay as a backup project a decade ago. When the Seti results stop flowing I will also probably join GPUGrid and Rosetta, and maybe Einstein. MilkyWay (BOINC client) never really did what I wanted it to "automatically", usually had to control it manually. I'm probably going to have a heck of a time trying to get all of them to peacefully co-exist when the time comes. Guess it will be time for new challenges.
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Message 2035891 - Posted: 5 Mar 2020, 2:15:36 UTC - in response to Message 2035805.  

E@H does not have weekly outages

So where is the fun? No moon to hollow, hair to burn, virgin to sacrifice, goes to the pub...

We can still party over @ the S@H is down cafe and lament, burn hair go to the pub and sacrifice as we see fit. See you next Tuesday.
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Message 2035894 - Posted: 5 Mar 2020, 2:38:54 UTC - in response to Message 2035888.  

MilkyWay (BOINC client) never really did what I wanted it to "automatically",

Strange, MW is one of the few set and forget and never have to mess with it projects I run. Has a fixed limit on the number of tasks it allows on a host and reasonable deadlines I have never missed.
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