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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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The people on France are not happy. Police clash with pension demonstrators for second night in Paris. Macron's leadership at risk amid tensions over pension plan. While the people in Greece are feeling the same way, but for different reasons. Greece sacks police chief after train tragedy protests. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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It's not getting any better in France. France ‘burning’ as violent pension reform protests cause fuel shortages, mass arrests. I reckon that Macron went the totally wrong way about implementing his decision. |
rob smith ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22958 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380
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We are coming into the "Strike and riot" season in France. Each year they choose a different topic and for the next six months they strike and riot. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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More friction? France-Germany tensions overshadow EU leaders' summit. A burgeoning row between France and Germany fired by differences over nuclear energy and combustion engines threatened to spill over into a gathering of the 27 European Union leaders Thursday. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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Not a good look and certainly not good for the future economically. Spain clean energy case shakes confidence in EU investment. Renewable energy investors who lost subsidies promised by Spain are heading to a London court to try to claw back $125 million from the government — a decadelong dispute with ramifications for clean energy financing across the European Union. |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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More friction?Yes, more friction!!! And it is absolutely necessary to discuss these things instead of covering them up with the typical ideological babble. First, bans and technology requirements are botch. The desired goal of CO2 savings is better and much cheaper achieved through taxation, emission certificates, price incentives, etc. In the past, it was the UK government who insisted on favoring liberal market principles over French-type state dirigisme. Unfortunately, we now lack the British corrective. Then there is an extremely weak German chancellor who is unable to resolve internal political conflicts within his governing coalition. Instead, he watches passively as his "dwarfs" take their conflicts to the EU level and annoy 26 other governments. German politics 2023 - embarrassing. Second, it is also not helpful from the German side to constantly ignore the French approach to consider nuclear energy as a low-CO2 technology. For many years now they are annoying the French, overlooking the topic in pique... pointing fingers pityingly at French nuclear power plants and ugh.... those dirty, nasty, obsolete technology... when at the same time Germany shuts down the previously most reliable NPPs on earth ("Konvoi"-type: 1300...1400 MW each) and instead urgently buys as much coal as possible from Australia, South Africa, Colombia... Crazy. Energy policy in the EU isn't a matter of the EU commission but for the individual states. And the loudest opponents of nuclear energy in Europe, next to Germany, are the freeloaders Luxembourg and Austria, who simply import their electricity needs. This has to be discussed and the smaller EU states should unite and oppose unrealistic German energy policy, which unfortunately is also regularly repeated by the EU Commission (whose President, von der Leyen, is a German too). |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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Is another French Revolution on the cards? Wild scenes on the streets of Paris as election looms. France’s far-right party could be on the brink of power after winning the first round of a snap parliamentary election. |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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Is another French Revolution on the cards?The French revolution was supported by the broad masses of the people against a despotic ruling aristocracy. The current riots are fueled by a small minority of violent left-wing extremists and masses of migrant non-citizens. I see a big difference to a 'Revolution'. But it is indeed striking that (some!) leftists immediately are errecting burning barricades, smashing shop windows, and destroying cars when they are unhappy with election results. They are bad losers and represent the opposite of an enlighted society. Appeasement does not work, neither against bloodthirsty dictators nor against violence-loving anarchists. There are Olympic Games in Paris this summer. The government will have to get things in order. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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Well young Vik isn't making any friends as he's off kissing PooTin's ...... Ukraine Allies Slam Viktor Orbán Over Putin Meeting. Hungarian Prime Minister and newly assumed Council of the European Union President Viktor Orbán's unannounced visit to Russia on Friday has sparked a wave of condemnation from European allies of Ukraine.My gosh, but these far right wingnuts are certainly delusional and out of control these days. :-( |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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My gosh, but these far right wingnuts are certainly delusional and out of control these days. :-(But why? Putin controls some information (kompromat) about all of them that makes them crawl at his feet. Just watch older footage of Trump in Putin's presence; like a submissive puppy. It's terrifying. Orban is no different. You only have to think about Trump's relation with Epstein for a moment and the worst becomes imaginable if you add the tried and tested methods of the KGB. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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La Bic's French Revolution falls short. France's Far-Right Suffers Blow in Election. A left-wing coalition has won the most seats in France's second round of legislative elections, dealing a blow to the far-right which had hoped to build on gains in the first round of the ballot. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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The far right morons are crawling out of the sewers these days and 1 big moron is enabling their violent movements by giving them a voice. UK slams ‘deeply irresponsible’ Musk ‘civil war’ comments. Especially when fake B.S. is being allowed to spread on his service unheeded. Travellers warned, PM slams ‘far-right thuggery’ as UK rocked by worst riots in 13 years. England’s worst rioting in 13 years has continued to escalate after disturbances linked to child murders and involving far-riot agitators flared across the country. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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Where are those far right morons at now? Incredible sight as counter-protesters take to streets after week of riots in the UK. Britain is teetering on the edge of fresh chaos as tens of thousands of anti-racism protesters take to the streets to disrupt 100 far-right rallies planned to take place. |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874
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It's all felt very strange. We're no strangers to street violence in the UK, but usually the pressure builds up gradually around a specific issue. This on blew up suddenly, out of the blue. I think First Dog on the Moon summed it up best: Last noght was quieter - thank god - but I wouldn't say we're completely out of the woods yet. |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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The French government coalition collapsed yesterday. Opposition backed a no convidence vote and toppled PM Barnier. It is a result of the snap elections this summer; carelessly called by President Macron. Since then, there has been a destructive opposition majority of the extreme left and right; a stable government currently can't be formed. New elections are not possible until next summer. Why France's turmoil is grave concern for Europe For France, there's no real end to the political instability in sight.Together with Germany, the continent's two largest nations are currently without a functioning government able to pass laws. With one difference: in Germany, snap elections could be called at any time with 60 days' notice, if only the Chancellor (and President) considered it urgent. Tempus fugit... |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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The U.S. Secretary of Defence as well as the U.S. Vice President explained in clear, unambigous terms at the MSC conference in Munich last week the broad lines of the future US foreign policy, which represents a break with the previous policies of three decades. The concept of "America First" was already proclaimed in Trump's first term in office and must have been clear to everyone in Europe for a long time. Instead: an startled outcry, outrage, raging rejection. Now, the US administration is setting about implementing this quickly and bringing about changes. (Don't want to rate Trump's policies here...) What is Europe doing? It is meeting on a small scale with the "perceived" big ones (DE, UK, FR, PL); forgetting the extremely determined and powerful "small ones" (Baltics, Czechia, Romania), which have so far supported Ukraine effectively with everything they could provide. There is a lot of palaver but no common line. Instead, a cacophony:
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 38678 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489
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It seems that young Viktor has a growing problem with his subjects. Budapest LGBTQIA+ march swells into massive anti-government demonstration. Tens of thousands of protesters have marched through Hungary's capital as a banned LGBTQIA+ rights rally has swelled into a mass anti-government demonstration. |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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The mayor of Budapest, a left-wing activist, redefined the banned LGBTQIA+ parade as a commemoration of the withdrawal of Soviet occupation troops, a pure civic event. Orban was a student leader in the late 1980s and publicly advocated for the Soviet withdrawal from Hungary, which earned him nationwide admiration. He couldn't stop this event. Clever, this mayor of Budapest. The woke urban bubble in the capital is showing its contempt for the corrupt conservative president. More protestors than last year crowded the streets of Budapest. But that doesn't mean a majority of the population approves this 'colorful', urban parallel society. The Hungarian flag is still red, white and green, not rainbow colored. Orban could learn, it's adviced to ignore unwanted political protest instead of banning it, which will always backfire. |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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French parliament ousted the PM; government collapsed. Macron's PM Bayrou lost a confidence vote this evening, as was expected since days. Monsieur le President now has to appoint another PM; but who? Macron's "Besoin d'Europe" list lost its majority in parliament already in the previous snap elections in July 2024. 1980s... 1990s Italian vibes... Some have speculated that Macron would turn now to a leftwing prime minister, having failed with the conservative Barnier and the centrist Bayrou. However, the PS [Partie Socialiste] has said it wants a total break from Macron’s pro-business policies.3.4 trillion euros liability; French debt soon reaching 150% of GDP.... but today's Partie Socialiste (in former decades a reliable left-wing government party that provided longtime President François Mitterand (1981-1995), and François Hollande (2012-2017) at least with a full five years term) now aims at what? Socialism? Communism? This party urges to end Macron's "pro-business" policies in order to tackle France's existential debt burden. Sounds about right, isn't it? |
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Scrooge McDuck Send message Joined: 26 Nov 99 Posts: 2120 Credit: 1,674,173 RAC: 54
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President Macron appointed incumbent Defense Minister Sébastien Lecornu as next PM. Lecornu is a close companion of Macron; a former member of "Les Republicains". He joined Macron's political movement "République en Marche" in 2017. Macron tasked the PM to consult with all political blocs in parliament to adopt a state budget for 2026. That's almost a Mission Impossible in a parliament that's divided between three almost contrary blocs: Leftists, Centrists and Right-Wing without a majority in sight. The PM supposedly will postpone proposing a new government until after the adoption of a budget. So again, France is preoccupied with its domestic political disunity for the time being. |
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